Android 13 on the Fairphone 3(+)

[jdanielp]

I’ve spotted one bug so far… On the lock screen, my phone has been telling me for a while that it is ‘75% • Charging slowly • Full in 8 hrs’ despite it not actually being plugged in and not at 75% charge.

[DonFnord]

@Kariburger

Does anybody know, whether LineageOS does some sort of “cheating”, to get around this limitation?

Hi again,

since some apps with fingerprint sensor functionality work with A13 on FP3 and some don´t I would rather say it´s depending on the respective app provider and not the ones that develop the OS.

Best
DonFnord

[lordreesmogg]

Installed Android 13 on a FB3+, Android is bloatware at just over 1GB.

[HolosericaCaligo]

@Kariburger

Does anybody know, whether LineageOS does some sort of “cheating”, to get around this limitation?
→ if it doesn’t, then things does not get worse by Fairphone OS 13 - then I can switch to Fairphone OS 13 without loosing anything

Yes, LineageOS has made some hacks, see here:

@TeamB58

The biometrics strength has been restored temporarily. A decision shall be taken later. So, it now works for 3rd party apps as well.

@Kariburger

But I want to leave LineageOS 20.0 in favour of your stock ROM, as it suffers massive permission problems (see comparable problems with LineageOS 19 - FP3-LOS 19.1: System instable after leaving standby - potential problem due to permission problems of system apps like Systemui, Appop (#5317) · Issues · LineageOS / issues / android · GitLab ), so that SystemUI and some apps like “Magic Earth” are freezing very often (I don’t know whether these permission warnings are causing the freeze - but I find those warnings when I analyse the logs of such a freezing situation).

I don’t remember having those issues you mentioned with iodéOS (LineageOS fork) - you could also try iodéOS.
But it doesn’t seem to be a general issue for FP3 LineageOS users.
Have you already tried to completely wipe the OS and do a fresh reinstall?
This might help…

@Kariburger

Is it possible, that Fairphone offers an “unofficial” version, which provides usable fingerprint sensor like in LineageOS?

No, that almost certainly won’t happen.

[hayao]

Hi,

I know that the update is rolled out in stages.

Do you know the maximum delay for all the stages to be completed ?

No update yet for my FP3 in France.

[igor-cali]

Update not available yet in Italy either.

[anon9989719]

It’s not just the location but the network you are using, some get it the same day some a few days later, some . . . . way down the line

[igor-cali]

I know, thanks. I can’t tell by myself if this update is pending only on my NW provider or on any other here. So I omitted that part.

[patzi]

@Kariburger

Hi,
I’m currently using LineageOS 20. But I want to leave LineageOS 20.0 in favour of your stock ROM, as it suffers massive permission problems (see comparable problems with LineageOS 19 - FP3-LOS 19.1: System instable after leaving standby - potential problem due to permission problems of system apps like Systemui, Appop (#5317) · Issues · LineageOS / issues / android · GitLab ), so that SystemUI and some apps like “Magic Earth” are freezing very often (I don’t know whether these permission warnings are causing the freeze - but I find those warnings when I analyse the logs of such a freezing situation).

It seems I have this problem after updating to stock android 13.

• Some apps are freezing with a warning notification.

  • i.e. OrganicMaps (i think it is a fork of MagicEarth), GadgetBridge, when I open the list of apps for notification settings

• Blank screen after waking up from standby, have to wait ~half a minute until the screen becomes responsible

Have to figure out if its the same problems described as in the LOS issue. But from the behavior it seems like it is the case.

Does anyone have these problems as well since the upgrade?

[Alain_Guillet]

Do you have automatic screen rotation activated ? If so, could you deactivate it ?

[Dryhte]

For me, the upgrade to A13 seems to be totally uneventful. I’m not a fan of some of Android’s design choices, but I’ll live with them. And of course, I’m happy that my Fairphone is again on a ‘current’ Android version.
There is one thing I find annoying though: I see a sort of ‘sunburst’ fade-in animation when I unlock my phone from dark screen. If there were a way to disable this without disabling other animations, I’d be grateful for pointers re. how to do this…

[brekerr]

since the update to 13 my phone keeps freezing, requiring me to remove the battery to restart it. Is this happening to anyone else? any suggestions?

[AnotherElk]

@brekerr

any suggestions?

@AnotherElk

In-place upgrades to a new major OS version (as opposed to cleanly installing the new version from scratch) can cause weird behaviour of all sorts. This has nothing to do with any particular OS or device, it can happen with all of them, software in general became just hopelessly complex.
Vendors can’t test every state an installation might be in, and they are not bold enough to leave cleanly installing from scratch as the only upgrade option, because obviously many users wouldn’t like that. So they do what they can with testing and roll out in-place upgrades keeping their fingers crossed.

Since Fairphone stopped the Android 13 rollout for the time being because of the fingerprint sensor situation, i don’t know how quick they will be to release an install file for manual install (it’s not there yet currently), but you could contact support … https://support.fairphone.com/hc/en-us

@brekerr

requiring me to remove the battery to restart it

Keeping the power button pressed for about 15 seconds should force a reboot.

[anon9989719]

@AnotherElk

Since Fairphone stopped the Android 13 rollout for the time being because of the fingerprint sensor situation,

Have they. I didn’t see any mention of that? That’s the A.016.0 version

I’m using the Beta A.019.0 version on one phone, so it seems the roll out is ongoing but with the downgraded ability with the fingerprint sensor

[AnotherElk]

@anon9989719

Have they. I didn’t see any mention of that?

@Marta_Artigas

We have stopped the roll-out (at 10%) of the update, for now, to make sure the information for the end users is well-written and clear enough.

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@anon9989719

I’m using the Beta

Beta testing is independent of the official rollout, I would think.

[anon9989719]

AH! I had read the topic too quickly, as is often my bad

@Marta_Artigas

We have stopped the roll-out (at 10%) of the update, for now, to make sure the information for the end users is well-written and clear enough.

@hayao @igor-cali

[Alain_Guillet]

If you have auto-rotate activated could you deactivate it ? It worked for some.

[patzi]

@Alain_Guillet

Do you have automatic screen rotation activated ? If so, could you deactivate it ?

Also with auto rotate I can easily reproduce freezing gadgetbridge when opening the list of apps for notification filtering

gadgetbridge -> notification settings -> app list

wait a few seconds and app freezes. And it keeps freezing until I stop it. going back out of the app list doesn’t help.

[paolo-caroni]

@patzi This is strange, I use gadgetbridge and LineageOS 20 (android 13) without any freeze or problems. I’m sorry but I’ve never used the fairphone version of android, one of the reason I have bought my fp3 because have a good custom ROM support.

[patzi]

@brekerr

since the update to 13 my phone keeps freezing, requiring me to remove the battery to restart it. Is this happening to anyone else? any suggestions?

besides app freezes (see above) I had these as well.

@Alain_Guillet

If you have auto-rotate activated could you deactivate it ? It worked for some.

After disabling auto-rotate I no longer have my phone going dark. App freezes still happen but I did not have to restart the phone. Only thing I am missing auto-rotate right now .