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Redefining longevity: Android 9 now available for Fairphone 2

Well, what do you mean with “two days”? I have installed the Version 21.03.0-re.2 nearly some two months ago, and it simply gets worse, not better! You can look at the percentage as it crumbles down within seconds…

@unaegeli this is a problem on our side. The gyroscope is currently disabled, but it’s needed for the panorama function. See also #71 on the issue tracker.

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I see - but too late. I meanwhile have put aside the FP2 with this “new” A9-release and use another one with the new e-OS with Android 10, where everything is running fine, so far.

Because I use the panorama function of OpenCamera very often, so it is important to me to have an OS that supports it. And it works as usual with Android 10 and e-OS.

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Sorry, do you mean that this is an issue with the newest software update? If so, I assume this will be fixed in a future update? My FP2’s default camera has also lost its panorama and photo sphere features.

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From the issue tracker page, that @karsten linked to:

This issue affects all versions of Android 9.

Since it’s active on the issue tracker, I guess, they are working on it and at least plan to include it in a future update as soon as they have solved the problem.
But that’s just my own conclusion of course.

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The issue is that the gyroscope doesn’t comply with specific Android requirements (see CDD/CTS for details). Those specific checks were not present in Android 7 and before, therefore we only had to disable it now since Android 9. LineageOS and /e/ are not certified by Google, so they are not affected by this.

We plan to re-enable the gyroscope again in some way in future releases, but we don’t have a clear timeline on that yet.

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Anyway: I am so fed up with everything that comes from Android that I will soon leave this community (and ubuntu touch is NOT an alternative…). There is chaos everywhere, in the calendar, in the contacts, in the browsers - there is always a huge mess with this criminal OS.

If there would be an iOS or a solid linux system for Fairphone…

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Although I don’t use Google as such, no account etc. I have had no problems with Android since I left Nokia’ Symbian and later Samsung’s Bada

So I do wonder what chaos you have acquired and where it came from. Hope your new mobile phone endeavours are less heartbreaking.

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Anyone know if the upgrade to Android 9 will also be offered through the Fairphone Updater to FP2 users still on Android 6?

We have one such FP2 user (German topic) who doesn’t seem to get offered even the Android 7 upgrade through her FP2’s updater app, not to mention Android 9. And her updater is on version 1.50.2.

How about the manual installation – should it be possible to directly go from Android 6 to Android 9 by means of the manual installation? Or should an intermediate step (upgrade from Android 6 to Android 7) be taken first?

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Hello @urs_lesse I note you are an old hat at this Fairphone endeavour so please excuse if my query seems inappropriate.

But isn’t it possible to update to install any suitable OS on a phone, i.e. if there is Android 9 for the FP2 anyone should can install it or the Android 7 manually ~ with required skills and patience, am I misunderstanding something?

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I have no idea, however what about installing A7 manually to avoid issues and then hopefully OTA will provide the updates step by step to A9?

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Probably in this case a downgrade oft the app would help AS the latest version was specifically for the A 9 upgrade?

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From Fairphone 2 (Android 9) - FAQ:

Q: I did not get the update notification yet. How can I update now?
A: Make sure you are running the latest version of Android 7.1.2. You will need the Fairphone Updater app. If you have not downloaded it yet, make sure you are running Android 6 at least, and go to the Google Play store to install the Fairphone Updater app on your device. Then update to the Fairphone 7.1.2 version. Via the Fairphone Updater app, you can then update your device from Android 7 to Android 9.

If this doesn’t work out, you can manually update to Android 9.

My best bet is that the most recent Fairphone Updater version does not “see” any update when running on A6…

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The latest Updater version should just work well on Android 6 as well. The only limitation is that for the Android 7 and 9 upgrade, you need a minimum Updater app version installed.

As for the 6 to 9 upgrade: We never tested that and I don’t recommend doing that. It is very likely that some migrations steps would be missing, and that apps or system services wouldn’t work properly. First manually updating to Android 7 (19.11.2) should work well.

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Eventually the upgrade from Android 6 to Android 7 has become available to the user, apparently it took some freeing up of storage space to “unlock” the upgrade.

UPDATE: Afters successfully upgrading (apparently OTA) to Android 7 (Fairphone OS 18.09.2), the updating went on up to Fairphone OS 19.11.2 and from there/then to Fairphone OS 21.05.0. so it’s not a one-stop upgrade from Android 6 to Android 9, but: 6 → 7 → 9. :slight_smile:

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We both will return to 19.11.2 - as we expereince far too many spontaneous reboots with A9 (FP open) and A10 (eOS of e-foundation). 19.11.2 was always stable. And those few apps we need, still run well.

Dixi.

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…and the WiFi connection is also far more stable with A7 than with A9 or A10…

But with serious security issues, as Android 7 got no updates for quite a while now.

Who cares - I never had any security issues, and we don’t use a lot of apps. How many people are walking around with very old smartphones and never have any problems (except for newer apps - but you can avoid those).

The problem is another one: Android as such is a complete failure. It’s usability is a sheer catastrophe. And unfortunately ubports and jolla sailfish are in no ways better, I have them all tried out. Apparently iOS is the only OS with a more or less normal usability.

You should care. The nature of a ‘good’ exploit of a security breach is, that you don’t realize that it is already used to compromise your phone, steal data or use it for illegal activities.

As I’m using iOS and Android, I can’t say, that one of them is better in all ways. Some things are working better or easier on this side of the river, some on the other bank.

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