Will they sell 15000? [They did]

That’s my opinion, too.
I can’t understand, why the people from Fairphone spend so much afford, time and money in a very good phone and transform it afterwards in something ordinary, closed and in the last result unfair, by installing android on it.

Please change this!!!

@berta All we know so far is that Fairphone are working with FLOSS communities to get alternative operating systems working on the FP2. So they are not “closing the phone and making it unfair”. They will probably release the source code when the phone will be released.

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Yes how dare they! It’s obivous that Android is developed by abused children who have working days that last 14 hours and the little money they do earn is stolen by militias that use it to fund their civil war.

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@Jerry you have a point but please don’t mock other people for their hopes and believes.
This is your third post in the last few weeks that could offend people. Us moderators discussed it and decided your posts are not “enough” for an official warning, but let me tell you inofficially that I have an eye on you.
Please express yourself a little more considerate in the future. Thanks

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:blush:
According to me, the sales will improve when :
1- we see these pictures everywhere on the site + shop site :smile:


<img src="/uploads/default/original/2X/5/5915cfb93c308707c6ffd3548777ec8cf9130a57.png" width=“150” height=250">

Tonight ? :smile:

2- when Fairphone announce it will be possible, soon, to upgrade the phone with the 13MP camera module :blush:

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@Berta:

Because most people want an Android phone?

Of course you can root it and load something else if that’s your thing - but a lot of us just want a fairly manufacturered, robust and repairable phone … and actually quite like Android 5.1.

@Jerry

BTW: seems not everyone gets sarcasm!!! Not sure who the moderators think you were insulting, google or Berta (??)… but I at least get your meaning ;¬)

… anyway, now need to sell 213 a day to make 15k … I don’t see it myself, but it was & is a tough target - and hopefully once a few are out in the world, sales will shoot up.

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I’m positive about that. Many struggle to buy a phone nobody knows much about.

People ought to grow a spine then. But ok, I’ll settle down.

I guess doubly so because there already is a group of 60,000 enthousiasts that already bought a FP1. I don’t know how many people that already bought a FP1(u) will buy a FP2 especially not because doing that would kind of defeat the purpose of FairPhone’s longevity ideals.

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Fairphone intend on releasing all the relevant source codes for the BSP which will be great when we see it.

This should allow just about any android based OS to be run on it, once porting work is done.

ie.

  • Android systems like Cyanogenmod and Replicant.
  • Weird hybrids like FirefoxOS
  • Hybris based systems like SailfishOS, Ubuntu Touch, LuneOS (WebOS), and Plasma Mobile.

Sure there is a lot of work to be done to enable all of that, but once the source code is released then Fairphone have done their bit and its up to the various communities to support the device.

but this discussion probably belongs here

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Please do not mix the issues fair production / trade with the issues open source vs closed source software. Jerry answer is right at it’s core: These are simply not comparable issues and impacts.

Yes, Fairphone tries to improve phone production on a multitude aspects, even on software / operating systems. Calling Android “unfair” misses the point (on what basis actually software can be unfair and if android and google actually are unfair is something we should discuss elsewhere). Implying choosing Android as OS contradicts or makes the other interventions of FP worthless – is a little bit over the top.

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What I intend for a fair phone is a phone (or a pocket computer to be more right) fair in all aspects: this include the fairness of the chain production, the conflict free material and the workers condition in first instance AND the fairness of the software; Android + google apps IS NOT fair at all under this aspect: it doesn’t respect the users privacy and the software freedom, an issue that could be (for me definitely IS) secondary respect the other but that has it’s importance. So, every time I read an intervention of Jerry that commenta on every one that underline this aspect I want to stop reading. It’s very annoying for me, I respect all the argumentation (if founded and related with the topic) but his continue off topic sometimes boring me, and kills my interest about the forum. Fortunately he isn’t a Fairphone crew member.

only my 2cents

P.S. sorry fot the off topic :sweat_smile:

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I am new here, and I am about to buy the Fairphone 2, bringing it closer to the 15,000 goal (so my post fits in here in a way :grinning:) .

But if those people succeeded who think that the Android software is “unfair”, and I would have to go for one of these unripe “independent” open source software systems, I would definitely not buy the Fairphone.

My main incentive is the environmental aspect of Fairphone, and while this does not seem to be the primary focus of Fairphone, they do a better job than any other company that sells phones in this regard.

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Reading the blog regulary and looking at all the initatives of Fairphone, it seems to me it is at least their secondary focus. :wink:

You hit the nail on the head. My response was fully fueled by another poster entirely dismissing the worth of the FairPhone project based on the fact that the phone runs Android. Such extreme comments are becoming more and more common here on these forums and I feel the need to give a bit of throttle in the other direction. It’s perhaps a bit of a personality flaw in me that I approach such things with a (un)healthy dose of sarcasm and irony.

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To keep this thread a little more on topic please continue discussing whether a phone running android can be fair here:

I’d move the “off topic” posts there, but I wouldn’t know where to start and anyway the moved posts would be contextless there.

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I think it would boost sales, if there was a new blog post each week (I somehow recall that being promised by Fairphone in the beginning). A lot of people read the post entries (at least it seems so, judging from the comments on the Disqus platform.)

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Well the long awaited [cost breakdown][1] is there guys. :smiley:
[1]: https://www.fairphone.com/2015/09/09/cost-breakdown-of-the-fairphone-2/

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Hopefully this clear overview will convice people to buy the Fairphone.

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I’m getting too old to stay up until 12:00 am every night. If anyone buys a phone in the final quarter of an hour of the day, feel free to inform me…tomorrow morning! :grin:

Back on topic, it’s very nice to see the recent re-acceleration of sales seems to stay for a while now. I feel still very much in the dark about what has changed around the turn of the month. Maybe it’s that mysterious phenomenom sometimes referred to as “Pay Day”. :blush:

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