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Will they sell 15000? [They did]


#1

Watching FP2 sales has become an OCD! Will they? Won’t they? Sell 15,000 by the end of September?!

First week sales averaged around 625 a day - but included all the people who’d been waiting in the traps for the starting gun.

Over the last three weeks sales averaged 124 a day. 51 days to go = maybe another 5000 sold? That’s “only” 12,400

I just hope there are enough people with:

a) a social conscience
b) a desire for a new high spec mobile
c) who don’t mind that it’s quite big and heavy and not very water-resistant
c) who have enough spare cash
d) and who don’t already have an FP1

… and what happens if there aren’t?


How did the decision making process for the OEM/chip set work?
#2

They’ll eventually sell 'em all. Happened with 2nd batch FP1 (FP1u) as well.


#3

I guess we all hope they will, but I think there has been a considerable slowdown after the first week.


Values represent the accumulated total (i.e. since thursday 16 July 12 am) number sold by the end of the day stated on the x-axis.
Note: The value for 17 August is an estimate, strongly helped by @gewuerzketchup’s tracking which I adapted just slightly to account for the (usually very limited) evening instant payment sales (adding 8 is an estimate).

I would welcome if Fairphone would give it some more push soon. Maybe send M. Miquel Ballester on a European road show? :wink: It seems his Berlin event went very well.


#4

Your OCD is worse than mine my friend! A bar chart no less.

I really do hope we / they make the 15k … but that chart does look a bit asymptotic towards 8000 :¬(


#5

Well, strictly speaking a bar chart might be misleading…makes it look like the bar is the daily number :slight_smile: Wished it was! :wink:


#6

The first day of pre-orders I was scared not to be able to make it into the list of the first 15k because of the number’s rapid growth :palm_tree: Now I’m worried that daily sales will decrease even a little more.


#7

There may yet be some bulk sales to come… last time the Phone Co-op in the UK took an order of 1,000 I think with a preference for a further 1,000 (which I think they took).

Also, worth pointing out that there is a correlation between the sales numbers and the marketing campaigns. So I would expect another flurry as the campaign builds.

BTW, I also have felt a little OCD watching the numbers :stuck_out_tongue:


#8

So tomorrow, when they reach 7.5k, I’m gonna sit on my balcony and drink a fair trade iced tea to this success. :tropical_drink:


#9

Time for your ice tea, @huskers.

Now that Fairphone made it halfway, i am somewhat confident they will reach there goals. However, to date, some important information is missing:

  • No cost breakdown
  • No definite info on Android/Google Apps/Root etc
  • Source code of FP2 apps not released to public
  • No info on alternative operating systems.

I guess this is also strategic: That information will probably grab the attention of tech sites and blog and continue to raise awareness. On the other hand, reading here, a lot of fairphone fans hesitate to buy before they have this information.


#10

Hope you are enjoying you nice glass of fair trade iced tea on the balcony already :wink:


#11

Cheers!


#12

You forgot the ‘2’ :wink:


#13

Selling like hot cakes today for some reason; 142 since yesterday evening and counting! Maybe the herd instinct has kicked in (well … if everyone else is buying one …).

I note the cooperative mobile are mentioning the FP2 on their site and taking “expressions of interest”, but they’re not listing it alongside their other handsets, promising they can supply one or advertising a price. If they will do an FP2 as a rental then I’m sure a lot more people would afford it. And it could be good for coop too if instead of handing them over to the lessee after 24months, they took them back and re-furbed for re-lease.


#14

True, realized that after the ice tea was empty :stuck_out_tongue:


#15

Maybe FP is running a new script, like

while (true){
increase_sold(1);
sleep(1800);
}
:smiley:


#16

There is always a little “tuesday kick” which I think isn’t actually a bulk of orders being made all at once but the accumulated payments coming in from the days before (i.e. non-instant bank transfers). Obviously, if you order on friday, saturday or sunday and choose a slow payment option, your payment will only arrive on monday or (more likely) tuesday (or even later). In the first days of selling in July, I actually tracked the numbers several times a day and there was always a rapid increase in the counter between roughly 8 and 9 am – I guess someone at Amsterdam HQ :sunglasses: is registering the payments then and entering these orders into the counter in the morning. The (far) fewer orders counted during the rest of day are probably solely those who choose an instant payment option. OCD fix for today √


#17

Haha, that is fairly correct. Bank transfers usually come in in the morning (this is normal for all banks btw ;))


#18

That would be cool, especially in ArnoldC.

IT’S SHOWTIME
STICK AROUND (NO PROBLEMO) {
HERE IS MY INVITATION (GET UP 1)
CHILL(1800)
}
YOU HAVE BEEN TERMINATED


#19

I bet there’s plenty of built up demand over here “across the pond”.

Just sayin…

Joe


#20

maybe there are more reasons why people hesitate to preorder now:

  1. Without cost-breakdown Fairphone asks people to trust them. There might be people that can read the logo: “Fairphone”, aknowledge the idea and know the story of FP1, but still want some evidence that the cost-breakdown for FP2 is still fair.
  2. As said above, some people won’t preorder until they know what they are preordering (see ben’s post above).
  3. Not everybody will spend more than 500€ right now, if he can spend them at the end of september and get the phone more or less at the same time (November). This could apply to people to that 500€ is still pretty much or that just try to get every cent out of their money. Others maybe just do not like spending more than 500€ as long as they are unsure if they sell 15000 and then may have to wait to get their money back.
    Therefore I think, there are a lot of people out there waiting for the numbers to grow to an extend that it seems probable that they exceed 15000 and let others take the “risk”. Some of them may preorder at an early stage if the numbers grow over a certain extend and others will wait to the end of september because they do not want pay too early without clear benefit.
    This is why I believe numbers will grow faster from mid-september on or maybe earlier if numbers exceed a point, let’s say 12000 at the beginning of sept, where most people think it’s probable to reach 15000. If the theory is right, numbers will grow even faster when preorders reach 14000…