Will they sell 15000? [They did]

According to me, the sales will improve when :
1- we see these pictures everywhere on the site + shop site :smile:

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Tonight ? :smile:

2- when Fairphone announce it will be possible, soon, to upgrade the phone with the 13MP camera module :blush:

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Because most people want an Android phone?

Of course you can root it and load something else if that’s your thing - but a lot of us just want a fairly manufacturered, robust and repairable phone … and actually quite like Android 5.1.


BTW: seems not everyone gets sarcasm!!! Not sure who the moderators think you were insulting, google or Berta (??)… but I at least get your meaning ;¬)

… anyway, now need to sell 213 a day to make 15k … I don’t see it myself, but it was & is a tough target - and hopefully once a few are out in the world, sales will shoot up.

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I’m positive about that. Many struggle to buy a phone nobody knows much about.

People ought to grow a spine then. But ok, I’ll settle down.

I guess doubly so because there already is a group of 60,000 enthousiasts that already bought a FP1. I don’t know how many people that already bought a FP1(u) will buy a FP2 especially not because doing that would kind of defeat the purpose of FairPhone’s longevity ideals.

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Fairphone intend on releasing all the relevant source codes for the BSP which will be great when we see it.

This should allow just about any android based OS to be run on it, once porting work is done.


  • Android systems like Cyanogenmod and Replicant.
  • Weird hybrids like FirefoxOS
  • Hybris based systems like SailfishOS, Ubuntu Touch, LuneOS (WebOS), and Plasma Mobile.

Sure there is a lot of work to be done to enable all of that, but once the source code is released then Fairphone have done their bit and its up to the various communities to support the device.

but this discussion probably belongs here


Please do not mix the issues fair production / trade with the issues open source vs closed source software. Jerry answer is right at it’s core: These are simply not comparable issues and impacts.

Yes, Fairphone tries to improve phone production on a multitude aspects, even on software / operating systems. Calling Android “unfair” misses the point (on what basis actually software can be unfair and if android and google actually are unfair is something we should discuss elsewhere). Implying choosing Android as OS contradicts or makes the other interventions of FP worthless – is a little bit over the top.


What I intend for a fair phone is a phone (or a pocket computer to be more right) fair in all aspects: this include the fairness of the chain production, the conflict free material and the workers condition in first instance AND the fairness of the software; Android + google apps IS NOT fair at all under this aspect: it doesn’t respect the users privacy and the software freedom, an issue that could be (for me definitely IS) secondary respect the other but that has it’s importance. So, every time I read an intervention of Jerry that commenta on every one that underline this aspect I want to stop reading. It’s very annoying for me, I respect all the argumentation (if founded and related with the topic) but his continue off topic sometimes boring me, and kills my interest about the forum. Fortunately he isn’t a Fairphone crew member.

only my 2cents

P.S. sorry fot the off topic :sweat_smile:

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I am new here, and I am about to buy the Fairphone 2, bringing it closer to the 15,000 goal (so my post fits in here in a way :grinning:) .

But if those people succeeded who think that the Android software is “unfair”, and I would have to go for one of these unripe “independent” open source software systems, I would definitely not buy the Fairphone.

My main incentive is the environmental aspect of Fairphone, and while this does not seem to be the primary focus of Fairphone, they do a better job than any other company that sells phones in this regard.


Reading the blog regulary and looking at all the initatives of Fairphone, it seems to me it is at least their secondary focus. :wink:

You hit the nail on the head. My response was fully fueled by another poster entirely dismissing the worth of the FairPhone project based on the fact that the phone runs Android. Such extreme comments are becoming more and more common here on these forums and I feel the need to give a bit of throttle in the other direction. It’s perhaps a bit of a personality flaw in me that I approach such things with a (un)healthy dose of sarcasm and irony.

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To keep this thread a little more on topic please continue discussing whether a phone running android can be fair here:

I’d move the “off topic” posts there, but I wouldn’t know where to start and anyway the moved posts would be contextless there.


I think it would boost sales, if there was a new blog post each week (I somehow recall that being promised by Fairphone in the beginning). A lot of people read the post entries (at least it seems so, judging from the comments on the Disqus platform.)


Well the long awaited [cost breakdown][1] is there guys. :smiley:
[1]: https://www.fairphone.com/2015/09/09/cost-breakdown-of-the-fairphone-2/


Hopefully this clear overview will convice people to buy the Fairphone.

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I’m getting too old to stay up until 12:00 am every night. If anyone buys a phone in the final quarter of an hour of the day, feel free to inform me…tomorrow morning! :grin:

Back on topic, it’s very nice to see the recent re-acceleration of sales seems to stay for a while now. I feel still very much in the dark about what has changed around the turn of the month. Maybe it’s that mysterious phenomenom sometimes referred to as “Pay Day”. :blush:


Still, it’s not enough! Daily sales would have to be at over 200. We are just not reaching this…! :frowning:

At 00:19 hours the number was 10517, just under your estimation.

The following is probably only interesting if you use Linux or Mac.

Since it’s going to be very exciting, I think I have to share my small bash alias with you. I don’t keep track of all sales in a nice chart, but when working on my computer I can always know the current status by typing a few characters in bash:

$ fp2sold
Thu Sep 10 01:42:51 CEST 2015
10526 of 15000 sold

All you have to do to get this magic trick working is

a) Having curl installed and
b) having this following function in your ~/.bash_alias

function fp2sold {
    date && curl -s http://shop.fairphone.com/media/counter.json | sed 's/{"total_sold"://;s/,"total_to_sell":/ of /; s/}/ sold\n/'

At the beginning there had been several new Fairphones sold in between the times of me typing fp2sold. Now the pace has slowed down a little. However that makes it even more exciting whether we will make it.


Of course the issues must not be mixed. But both have to be seen. It’s about how you wight production and software. Is it 50/50? Or is production all and fair/open software is just something on top, a nice-to-have?

Form my point of view the people from Fairphone did a great job which needs to be done (relay! thank you for that!!), but they just focus on half the problem.

I’ve been using open software for about 17 years now, and i don’t want to go back behind that. Thinking in the terms of open software, open access, open ideas and even privacy is maybe nothing many people are used to. So the ideas sound strange ans risky in their ears.

From my point of view saying: “I want a fairphone with Android” is the same like say: “I want fair production, but it must be cheep”.