This is great! Can’t wait to receive my Fairphone 4. This gives me more confidence in the QA you’re doing. Also thanks for providing the background, with that it makes the long wait for users justified. And good to know you’re working on an improved method to manage these roll outs.
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Thank you for clarifying, but can I ask why it took the company more than a month to take the time to give us these clarifications? You certainly lost me as a future customer, and I am probably not the only one… and I am more sad than mad about this, belive me.
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Whereas I agree it would have been nice to know why there are delays, but that is often the case, so not really a surprise, but very upsetting for those with the caller ID issue especially.
However I’m not sure alternative companies will give you an explanation or provide as many updates or send out updates that do not require fixes.
My being a customer has more to do with the fairtrade aspect than software issues and I don’t see that addressed nor any public explanations as why not to be considered by other manufacturers.
I note you are an FP1 user, that’s pretty impressive, so not all bad then ??
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Well, i am not that disappointed and do think that my fp3 is the best phone i had so far considering all aspects, but i would rather like to see a quick and easy solution to revert back to the last release next time.
@formerFP.Com.Manager Could you maybe in future releases implement an easy way to switch back to the last version via another slot if the update is somehow broken? Something like “reset device” which is already there?
The way AnotherElk described it in Can update 3.A.0129.20210805 be rolled back by switching the OS slot?, is not that customerfriendly.
In addition to a fast and clear announce about what went wrong, this would even make me feel more save doing updates.
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I suppose the worry in rolling back, although a good option for some, especially with the ‘unknown caller’ issue would roll back the security updates, and in the case back to June 2021.
And there are a number of other fixes that would be undone, so I image Fairphone would have to provide details on what else may go wrong, and are they covered for that?
There would be no problem if there was a detailed changelog.
But even lacking detailed info, I still imagine users would know what to expect with the OS version used before on their phones, as they used the former version for a while afterall.
Since it’s a user’s decision to update or not to update, it should be a possible user decision to roll back an update, too.
The procedure to roll back is there anyway, it just has to be made sure that it works for a start.
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@formerFP.Com.Manager Does reversing changes in adaptative brightness means that minimum brightness will be far too bright again? I just want to not burn my eyes when looking at my phone in the evening.
Thank for your work and answers
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I was wondering about that, but there were two issues.
a) the adaptive brightness and
b) the change in levels
I never had a problem with the lowest setting and the lowest setting now is unusable for me.
Let’s hope it was only the first.
Sorry if I have misunderstood, the lowest setting now is not something useful for you? On my side I use it only at night but it is such an improvement for me. 
But I agree that adaptative brightness is broken. I disabled it.
Honestly if updating my FP3 means having the minimum brightness to be as it was before this update, I think I will simply not update my phone. And I am pretty obsessive about installing updates! It is that important for me 
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@TrueCherry So you might need to skip the upcoming update
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Hello,
when will the Update happen? We have already initiated legal steps
against Vodafone here in Germany, as they say it’s a technical problem
on their side, but haven’t given any details on how fast they will
resolve the Caller ID issue. It’s more then a pain in the back - I use
the GMS for home office, so without the Caller ID the CTI software
doesn’t work!
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So it might hopefully be only a few more days
You understood me correctly I never had an issue with the lowest brightness setting.
So what happened for me was that the adaptive brightness came in too soon. i.e. the sensor read zero when there was enough ambient light to read and then set the screen to minimum brightness. Then the so called AI function didn’t learn. So I’ve just disabled adaptive and the phone is more usable in that sense.
Regarding yvmuell
Hopefully if it’s only the adaptive part Fairphone are rolling back and not level then all should be OK
I suppose all you have to do is to watch this forum before you decide. I will definitely be updating on the changes. 
Thanks for that as some people had been slagging off Fairphone as the culprit despite previous statements that support your post.
Well hopefully Fairphone will either be rolling that back or they have some new instructions from Vodafone
All the best.
This may be of some comfort to
no it doesn’t. Because : if Vodafone has it as a technical problem on there side… then which bug did Fairphone find in the code weeks ago? Somebody talks big bullshit. VF or fp. Or both.
Your question would be better directed to Vodafone, not that they may answer.
Chronologically
- Fairphone update the A10
- Fairphone do over 500,000 test to get an updated Android certificate
- The update is send to the major Networks (Vodafone, EE, O2 etc)
- Once each network confirms it’s OK it is released via the networks push notification
What doesn’t happen, which is quite often is that the networks don’t check with each of their carriers. If there’s protocol updated to Vodafone that hasn’t been passed to a carrier, something may break ~ like the caller ID. For me it was the carrier name ~ no big deal.
- Fairphoners tell Faiphone
- Fairphone collate and confirm there is a ‘ladybird’ in the works
- Fairphone tell Vodaphone, maybe six weeks ago
- Vodafone look at it and do tests
- Vodafone confirm and tell Fairphone they have found the problem
- Fairphone get the new info maybe 5 weeks ago
- Fairphone prepare a new update
- Two months later maybe we get the update.
That’s just my pennies worth.
Where’s the bovine manure you keep stepping in. It seems all vegan, kosher and halal from here
Thanks, as always, for the feedback and for proposing alternative solutions.
To answer @AnotherElk’s question about whether switching the A/B slot back to the OS state prior to the update could be made a part of internal testing. This is not a possible solution and is in fact, not recommended by Google because it might cause data loss. We also have Verified Boot installed which includes rollback protection. This is a protective measure that records the most recent version of the Android and refuses to boot Android if it’s lower than the recorded version.
Hope that clears it up a little! If there are further questions, of course feel free to give me a shout too. 
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Has anyone else encountered this problem with that version? Fairphone 3 stuck on boot screen after clean re-installation of Fairphone OS
I had the exact problem described in that thread but with the newest version of the software which is discussed here.
Update: flashing my phone with the version FP3 3.A.0107.20210513 Update solved the issue
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Das sehe ich auch so. Hatte die letzten 15Jahre immer Samsung und das ohne jemals ein Problem gehabt zu haben. Habe nun mein altes S5 im August durch ein FP3+ ausgetauscht, da das alte kein 4G konnte und hier das 3G-NEtz schon weitgehend ausgeschalten ist. Das war der Reinfall des Jahrhunderts. Mit so einem Produkt kann man leider nicht arbeiten. Ich bin oft Tiefgaragen unterwegs, wo kein Empfang ist und müsste dann zurück rufen. So kann man nicht arbeiten. An Weihnachten hole ich mir wieder ein Samsung und künftig werde ich keibn gutes Haar mehr an Fairphone lassen.