Hello to the round,
as surely most of you know, you can’t use all functions with a 3rd-party camera app at the moment. No matter if with stock rom or a custom rom. However, since /e/ has open camera installed as a system app, the super wide angle camera works. “Camera & Camera2 API - missing features & bugs” and added numbers.
Missing features
The wide angle camera is accessible only through the stock camera app, not through the API. This prevents its usage in alternative camera apps such as GCam or Open Camera.
The full 48MP quality (8000×6000) of the main camera and 24MP quality (5760×4312) of the selfie camera are completely unavailable.
For some reason, even the basic 12MP resolution (4000×3000) is inaccessible in the Camera2 mode , though it’s probably fine when using the old camera API. This is problematic for example when taking HDR photos using Open Camera. You simply cannot achieve the full 12MP quality.
The same applies to the basic 6MP resolution (2880×2156) of the selfie camera. But funnily enough, this resolution is accessible in preview and video modes. Only the photo mode is missing.
There also seems to be no access to FPS values higher than 30 , which complicates, for example, slow motion video shooting.
Also there is no direct access to the ToF sensor .
Bugs
When accessing the selfie camera in video mode using the Camera2 API , it sometimes freezes or straight up crashes apps. The workaround seems to be to set zoom to at least 1.07x, then it is stable. This is reproducible , but not by all users .
Trying to access 1/8x slow motion in GCam crashes the app. It works in Open Camera (0.125x speed), but the resulting video is choppy.
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OK, thanks for the hint. If I have understood correctly and have not overlooked anything, the 48MP are still not usable for the main camera. I have not found more info on the topic.
What is the experience of the /e/ users in this forum on the above points?
Volker
November 25, 2022, 9:33pm
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How could this be checked?
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Good question! I don’t know exactly what Camera2 API means and if that comes into play even though it’s installed as a system app. If so, maybe you could find out with the app @Razem mentioned (see also his report result for comparison):
wiki purposes .
Here is the Camera2 API report generated using Camera2 API Probe with a complete list of currently available features:
Model:FP4
Manufacturer:Fairphone
Build:11
SDK:30
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Model:FP4
Manufacturer:Fairphone
Build:11
SDK:30
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Camera ID: 0
Camera Facing: BACK
Hardware Supp…
Volker
November 26, 2022, 8:24pm
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The output of the mentioned app on /e/OS (but on a first search I didn’t find anything regarding ToF):
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Model:FP4
Manufacturer:Fairphone
Build:12
SDK:32
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Camera ID: 0
Camera Facing: BACK
Hardware Support Level:LEVEL_3
Manual exposure:1
Auto exposure:1
Auto exposure, always flash:1
Auto exposure, auto flash:1
Auto exposure, auto flash, red eye reduction:0
AE Lock:1
Compensation Range: [-12, 12]
Compensation Step: 1/6
Target FPS Range: [4, 15]
Target FPS Range: [15, 15]
Target FPS Range: [4, 30]
Target FPS Range: [7, 30]
Target FPS Range: [30, 30]
Manual focus:1
Auto focus:1
Auto focus macro:1
Auto focus continuous picture:1
Auto focus continuous video:1
Auto focus EDOF:0
White balance off:1
Automatic white balance:1
WB: cloudy day:1
WB: daylight:1
WB: fluorescent:1
WB: incandescent:1
WB: shade:1
WB: twilight:1
WB: warm fluorescent:1
AWB Lock:1
RawCapture:1
BurstCapture:1
availableCapability: BACKWARD_COMPATIBLE
availableCapability: CONSTRAINED_HIGH_SPEED_VIDEO
availableCapability: RAW
availableCapability: YUV_REPROCESSING
availableCapability: PRIVATE_REPROCESSING
availableCapability: READ_SENSOR_SETTINGS
availableCapability: MANUAL_SENSOR
availableCapability: BURST_CAPTURE
availableCapability: MANUAL_POST_PROCESSING
Stabilization Mode: Video
previewSize: 3952 * 1824 (13:6)
previewSize: 3840 * 2160 (16:9)
previewSize: 3264 * 2448 (4:3)
previewSize: 3200 * 2400 (4:3)
previewSize: 2976 * 2976 (1:1)
previewSize: 2880 * 2156 (720:539)
previewSize: 2688 * 1512 (16:9)
previewSize: 2560 * 1440 (16:9)
previewSize: 2340 * 1080 (13:6)
previewSize: 2048 * 1536 (4:3)
previewSize: 1920 * 1440 (4:3)
previewSize: 1920 * 1080 (16:9)
previewSize: 1600 * 1200 (4:3)
previewSize: 1440 * 1080 (4:3)
previewSize: 1280 * 960 (4:3)
previewSize: 1280 * 768 (5:3)
previewSize: 1280 * 720 (16:9)
previewSize: 1080 * 1080 (1:1)
previewSize: 1024 * 738 (512:369)
previewSize: 1024 * 768 (4:3)
previewSize: 864 * 480 (9:5)
previewSize: 800 * 600 (4:3)
previewSize: 800 * 480 (5:3)
previewSize: 720 * 1280 (16:9)
previewSize: 720 * 480 (3:2)
previewSize: 640 * 480 (4:3)
previewSize: 640 * 400 (8:5)
previewSize: 640 * 360 (16:9)
previewSize: 352 * 288 (11:9)
previewSize: 320 * 240 (4:3)
previewSize: 240 * 320 (4:3)
previewSize: 176 * 144 (11:9)
photoSize: 3952 * 1824 (13:6)
photoSize: 3840 * 2160 (16:9)
photoSize: 3264 * 2448 (4:3)
photoSize: 3200 * 2400 (4:3)
photoSize: 2976 * 2976 (1:1)
photoSize: 2880 * 2156 (720:539)
photoSize: 2688 * 1512 (16:9)
photoSize: 2560 * 1440 (16:9)
photoSize: 2340 * 1080 (13:6)
photoSize: 2048 * 1536 (4:3)
photoSize: 1920 * 1440 (4:3)
photoSize: 1920 * 1080 (16:9)
photoSize: 1600 * 1200 (4:3)
photoSize: 1440 * 1080 (4:3)
photoSize: 1280 * 960 (4:3)
photoSize: 1280 * 768 (5:3)
photoSize: 1280 * 720 (16:9)
photoSize: 1080 * 1080 (1:1)
photoSize: 1024 * 738 (512:369)
photoSize: 1024 * 768 (4:3)
photoSize: 864 * 480 (9:5)
photoSize: 800 * 600 (4:3)
photoSize: 800 * 480 (5:3)
photoSize: 720 * 1280 (16:9)
photoSize: 720 * 480 (3:2)
photoSize: 640 * 480 (4:3)
photoSize: 640 * 400 (8:5)
photoSize: 640 * 360 (16:9)
photoSize: 352 * 288 (11:9)
photoSize: 320 * 240 (4:3)
photoSize: 240 * 320 (4:3)
photoSize: 176 * 144 (11:9)
videoSize: 3952 * 1824 (13:6)
videoSize: 3840 * 2160 (16:9)
videoSize: 3264 * 2448 (4:3)
videoSize: 3200 * 2400 (4:3)
videoSize: 2976 * 2976 (1:1)
videoSize: 2880 * 2156 (720:539)
videoSize: 2688 * 1512 (16:9)
videoSize: 2560 * 1440 (16:9)
videoSize: 2340 * 1080 (13:6)
videoSize: 2048 * 1536 (4:3)
videoSize: 1920 * 1440 (4:3)
videoSize: 1920 * 1080 (16:9)
videoSize: 1600 * 1200 (4:3)
videoSize: 1440 * 1080 (4:3)
videoSize: 1280 * 960 (4:3)
videoSize: 1280 * 768 (5:3)
videoSize: 1280 * 720 (16:9)
videoSize: 1080 * 1080 (1:1)
videoSize: 1024 * 738 (512:369)
videoSize: 1024 * 768 (4:3)
videoSize: 864 * 480 (9:5)
videoSize: 800 * 600 (4:3)
videoSize: 800 * 480 (5:3)
videoSize: 720 * 1280 (16:9)
videoSize: 720 * 480 (3:2)
videoSize: 640 * 480 (4:3)
videoSize: 640 * 400 (8:5)
videoSize: 640 * 360 (16:9)
videoSize: 352 * 288 (11:9)
videoSize: 320 * 240 (4:3)
videoSize: 240 * 320 (4:3)
videoSize: 176 * 144 (11:9)
------------------------------------------
Camera ID: 1
Camera Facing: FRONT
Hardware Support Level:LEVEL_3
Manual exposure:1
Auto exposure:1
Auto exposure, always flash:0
Auto exposure, auto flash:0
Auto exposure, auto flash, red eye reduction:0
AE Lock:1
Compensation Range: [-12, 12]
Compensation Step: 1/6
Target FPS Range: [15, 15]
Target FPS Range: [8, 30]
Target FPS Range: [30, 30]
Manual focus:1
Auto focus:0
Auto focus macro:0
Auto focus continuous picture:0
Auto focus continuous video:0
Auto focus EDOF:0
White balance off:1
Automatic white balance:1
WB: cloudy day:1
WB: daylight:1
WB: fluorescent:1
WB: incandescent:1
WB: shade:1
WB: twilight:1
WB: warm fluorescent:1
AWB Lock:1
RawCapture:1
BurstCapture:1
availableCapability: BACKWARD_COMPATIBLE
availableCapability: RAW
availableCapability: YUV_REPROCESSING
availableCapability: PRIVATE_REPROCESSING
availableCapability: READ_SENSOR_SETTINGS
availableCapability: MANUAL_SENSOR
availableCapability: BURST_CAPTURE
availableCapability: MANUAL_POST_PROCESSING
Stabilization Mode: Video
previewSize: 2880 * 2156 (720:539)
previewSize: 2688 * 1512 (16:9)
previewSize: 2560 * 1440 (16:9)
previewSize: 2340 * 1080 (13:6)
previewSize: 2048 * 1536 (4:3)
previewSize: 1920 * 1440 (4:3)
previewSize: 1920 * 1080 (16:9)
previewSize: 1600 * 1200 (4:3)
previewSize: 1440 * 1080 (4:3)
previewSize: 1280 * 960 (4:3)
previewSize: 1280 * 768 (5:3)
previewSize: 1280 * 720 (16:9)
previewSize: 1080 * 1080 (1:1)
previewSize: 1024 * 738 (512:369)
previewSize: 1024 * 768 (4:3)
previewSize: 864 * 480 (9:5)
previewSize: 800 * 600 (4:3)
previewSize: 800 * 480 (5:3)
previewSize: 720 * 1280 (16:9)
previewSize: 720 * 480 (3:2)
previewSize: 640 * 480 (4:3)
previewSize: 640 * 400 (8:5)
previewSize: 640 * 360 (16:9)
previewSize: 352 * 288 (11:9)
previewSize: 320 * 240 (4:3)
previewSize: 240 * 320 (4:3)
previewSize: 176 * 144 (11:9)
photoSize: 2560 * 1440 (16:9)
photoSize: 2340 * 1080 (13:6)
photoSize: 2048 * 1536 (4:3)
photoSize: 1920 * 1440 (4:3)
photoSize: 1920 * 1080 (16:9)
photoSize: 1600 * 1200 (4:3)
photoSize: 1440 * 1080 (4:3)
photoSize: 1280 * 960 (4:3)
photoSize: 1280 * 768 (5:3)
photoSize: 1280 * 720 (16:9)
photoSize: 1080 * 1080 (1:1)
photoSize: 1024 * 738 (512:369)
photoSize: 1024 * 768 (4:3)
photoSize: 864 * 480 (9:5)
photoSize: 800 * 600 (4:3)
photoSize: 800 * 480 (5:3)
photoSize: 720 * 1280 (16:9)
photoSize: 720 * 480 (3:2)
photoSize: 640 * 480 (4:3)
photoSize: 640 * 400 (8:5)
photoSize: 640 * 360 (16:9)
photoSize: 352 * 288 (11:9)
photoSize: 320 * 240 (4:3)
photoSize: 240 * 320 (4:3)
photoSize: 176 * 144 (11:9)
videoSize: 2880 * 2156 (720:539)
videoSize: 2688 * 1512 (16:9)
videoSize: 2560 * 1440 (16:9)
videoSize: 2340 * 1080 (13:6)
videoSize: 2048 * 1536 (4:3)
videoSize: 1920 * 1440 (4:3)
videoSize: 1920 * 1080 (16:9)
videoSize: 1600 * 1200 (4:3)
videoSize: 1440 * 1080 (4:3)
videoSize: 1280 * 960 (4:3)
videoSize: 1280 * 768 (5:3)
videoSize: 1280 * 720 (16:9)
videoSize: 1080 * 1080 (1:1)
videoSize: 1024 * 738 (512:369)
videoSize: 1024 * 768 (4:3)
videoSize: 864 * 480 (9:5)
videoSize: 800 * 600 (4:3)
videoSize: 800 * 480 (5:3)
videoSize: 720 * 1280 (16:9)
videoSize: 720 * 480 (3:2)
videoSize: 640 * 480 (4:3)
videoSize: 640 * 400 (8:5)
videoSize: 640 * 360 (16:9)
videoSize: 352 * 288 (11:9)
videoSize: 320 * 240 (4:3)
videoSize: 240 * 320 (4:3)
videoSize: 176 * 144 (11:9)
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Hey, thanks a lot for the report!!!
The report is almost the same. It is even missing the super wide angle camera as well. Therefore, I assume that it somehow works differently as a system app. No idea how to test this.
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The report app would have to be installed as a system app and have the right permissions set in AndroidManifest.xml + added to the allow list to access the wide angle lens / additional functionality, just like a camera app, you won’t get a report of all the capatibilities this way.
More details:
The permission must be declared in the AndroidManifest.xml of the APK. This is where existing APKs need to be patched or compiled with the change. See
Then the app must be installed in /system/priv-app (or on the vendor partition). It must also be granted the system camera in /system/etc/permissions. For the stock camera we add privapp-permissions-com.fp.camera.xml
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<permissions>
<privapp-permissions package="com.fp.camera">
<permission name…
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OK, then there is no way to test if Open Camera can access the TOF sensor.
@Volker how does it look otherwise? Would you say that with Open Camera all functions are usable or have you noticed that something is missing?
I don’t know if the TOF sensor suffers from the same limitations, I was mostly interested in the wide angle lense to be honest.
If someone can answer that, it’s @xblax
Volker
November 26, 2022, 10:16pm
11
I don’t miss anything. As it was already mentioned the output of the cam is max 12MP which is enough for me.
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Yes, of course the wide-angle camera is the most important thing!
Unfortunately, we will have to wait a long time for the right solution from Fairphone. I have the feeling that the solution will no longer come…
That could be, of course. Open Camera is generally not the best app in terms of photo quality. But nice to hear that all the features are usable.
Would be a dream if it would work with the gcam ports too. Then we would have all the features AND good image quality. Let’s wait and see…
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system
May 25, 2023, 10:27pm
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I would like to know how it looks with other things. Which of the points below now work with open camera under /e/ and which still don’t? I copied the list from the topic “Camera & Camera2 API - missing features & bugs” and added numbers.
