Open camera on /e/ missing features or bugs?

Hello to the round,

as surely most of you know, you can’t use all functions with a 3rd-party camera app at the moment. No matter if with stock rom or a custom rom. However, since /e/ has open camera installed as a system app, the super wide angle camera works. :slightly_smiling_face: I would like to know how it looks with other things. Which of the points below now work with open camera under /e/ and which still don’t? I copied the list from the topic “Camera & Camera2 API - missing features & bugs” and added numbers.

Did you have a look over in the murena forum ?

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OK, thanks for the hint. If I have understood correctly and have not overlooked anything, the 48MP are still not usable for the main camera. I have not found more info on the topic. :thinking:

What is the experience of the /e/ users in this forum on the above points?
For example, does the ToF sensor work?

How could this be checked?

Good question! I don’t know exactly what Camera2 API means and if that comes into play even though it’s installed as a system app. If so, maybe you could find out with the app @Razem mentioned (see also his report result for comparison):

The output of the mentioned app on /e/OS (but on a first search I didn’t find anything regarding ToF):

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Model:FP4
Manufacturer:Fairphone
Build:12
SDK:32
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Camera ID: 0
Camera Facing: BACK
Hardware Support Level:LEVEL_3
Manual exposure:1
Auto exposure:1
Auto exposure, always flash:1
Auto exposure, auto flash:1
Auto exposure, auto flash, red eye reduction:0
AE Lock:1
Compensation Range: [-12, 12]
Compensation Step: 1/6
Target FPS  Range: [4, 15]
Target FPS  Range: [15, 15]
Target FPS  Range: [4, 30]
Target FPS  Range: [7, 30]
Target FPS  Range: [30, 30]
Manual focus:1
Auto focus:1
Auto focus macro:1
Auto focus continuous picture:1
Auto focus continuous video:1
Auto focus EDOF:0
White balance off:1
Automatic white balance:1
WB: cloudy day:1
WB: daylight:1
WB: fluorescent:1
WB: incandescent:1
WB: shade:1
WB: twilight:1
WB: warm fluorescent:1
AWB Lock:1
RawCapture:1
BurstCapture:1
availableCapability: BACKWARD_COMPATIBLE
availableCapability: CONSTRAINED_HIGH_SPEED_VIDEO
availableCapability: RAW
availableCapability: YUV_REPROCESSING
availableCapability: PRIVATE_REPROCESSING
availableCapability: READ_SENSOR_SETTINGS
availableCapability: MANUAL_SENSOR
availableCapability: BURST_CAPTURE
availableCapability: MANUAL_POST_PROCESSING
Stabilization Mode: Video
previewSize: 3952 * 1824 (13:6)
previewSize: 3840 * 2160 (16:9)
previewSize: 3264 * 2448 (4:3)
previewSize: 3200 * 2400 (4:3)
previewSize: 2976 * 2976 (1:1)
previewSize: 2880 * 2156 (720:539)
previewSize: 2688 * 1512 (16:9)
previewSize: 2560 * 1440 (16:9)
previewSize: 2340 * 1080 (13:6)
previewSize: 2048 * 1536 (4:3)
previewSize: 1920 * 1440 (4:3)
previewSize: 1920 * 1080 (16:9)
previewSize: 1600 * 1200 (4:3)
previewSize: 1440 * 1080 (4:3)
previewSize: 1280 * 960 (4:3)
previewSize: 1280 * 768 (5:3)
previewSize: 1280 * 720 (16:9)
previewSize: 1080 * 1080 (1:1)
previewSize: 1024 * 738 (512:369)
previewSize: 1024 * 768 (4:3)
previewSize: 864 * 480 (9:5)
previewSize: 800 * 600 (4:3)
previewSize: 800 * 480 (5:3)
previewSize: 720 * 1280 (16:9)
previewSize: 720 * 480 (3:2)
previewSize: 640 * 480 (4:3)
previewSize: 640 * 400 (8:5)
previewSize: 640 * 360 (16:9)
previewSize: 352 * 288 (11:9)
previewSize: 320 * 240 (4:3)
previewSize: 240 * 320 (4:3)
previewSize: 176 * 144 (11:9)
photoSize: 3952 * 1824 (13:6)
photoSize: 3840 * 2160 (16:9)
photoSize: 3264 * 2448 (4:3)
photoSize: 3200 * 2400 (4:3)
photoSize: 2976 * 2976 (1:1)
photoSize: 2880 * 2156 (720:539)
photoSize: 2688 * 1512 (16:9)
photoSize: 2560 * 1440 (16:9)
photoSize: 2340 * 1080 (13:6)
photoSize: 2048 * 1536 (4:3)
photoSize: 1920 * 1440 (4:3)
photoSize: 1920 * 1080 (16:9)
photoSize: 1600 * 1200 (4:3)
photoSize: 1440 * 1080 (4:3)
photoSize: 1280 * 960 (4:3)
photoSize: 1280 * 768 (5:3)
photoSize: 1280 * 720 (16:9)
photoSize: 1080 * 1080 (1:1)
photoSize: 1024 * 738 (512:369)
photoSize: 1024 * 768 (4:3)
photoSize: 864 * 480 (9:5)
photoSize: 800 * 600 (4:3)
photoSize: 800 * 480 (5:3)
photoSize: 720 * 1280 (16:9)
photoSize: 720 * 480 (3:2)
photoSize: 640 * 480 (4:3)
photoSize: 640 * 400 (8:5)
photoSize: 640 * 360 (16:9)
photoSize: 352 * 288 (11:9)
photoSize: 320 * 240 (4:3)
photoSize: 240 * 320 (4:3)
photoSize: 176 * 144 (11:9)
videoSize: 3952 * 1824 (13:6)
videoSize: 3840 * 2160 (16:9)
videoSize: 3264 * 2448 (4:3)
videoSize: 3200 * 2400 (4:3)
videoSize: 2976 * 2976 (1:1)
videoSize: 2880 * 2156 (720:539)
videoSize: 2688 * 1512 (16:9)
videoSize: 2560 * 1440 (16:9)
videoSize: 2340 * 1080 (13:6)
videoSize: 2048 * 1536 (4:3)
videoSize: 1920 * 1440 (4:3)
videoSize: 1920 * 1080 (16:9)
videoSize: 1600 * 1200 (4:3)
videoSize: 1440 * 1080 (4:3)
videoSize: 1280 * 960 (4:3)
videoSize: 1280 * 768 (5:3)
videoSize: 1280 * 720 (16:9)
videoSize: 1080 * 1080 (1:1)
videoSize: 1024 * 738 (512:369)
videoSize: 1024 * 768 (4:3)
videoSize: 864 * 480 (9:5)
videoSize: 800 * 600 (4:3)
videoSize: 800 * 480 (5:3)
videoSize: 720 * 1280 (16:9)
videoSize: 720 * 480 (3:2)
videoSize: 640 * 480 (4:3)
videoSize: 640 * 400 (8:5)
videoSize: 640 * 360 (16:9)
videoSize: 352 * 288 (11:9)
videoSize: 320 * 240 (4:3)
videoSize: 240 * 320 (4:3)
videoSize: 176 * 144 (11:9)
------------------------------------------
Camera ID: 1
Camera Facing: FRONT
Hardware Support Level:LEVEL_3
Manual exposure:1
Auto exposure:1
Auto exposure, always flash:0
Auto exposure, auto flash:0
Auto exposure, auto flash, red eye reduction:0
AE Lock:1
Compensation Range: [-12, 12]
Compensation Step: 1/6
Target FPS  Range: [15, 15]
Target FPS  Range: [8, 30]
Target FPS  Range: [30, 30]
Manual focus:1
Auto focus:0
Auto focus macro:0
Auto focus continuous picture:0
Auto focus continuous video:0
Auto focus EDOF:0
White balance off:1
Automatic white balance:1
WB: cloudy day:1
WB: daylight:1
WB: fluorescent:1
WB: incandescent:1
WB: shade:1
WB: twilight:1
WB: warm fluorescent:1
AWB Lock:1
RawCapture:1
BurstCapture:1
availableCapability: BACKWARD_COMPATIBLE
availableCapability: RAW
availableCapability: YUV_REPROCESSING
availableCapability: PRIVATE_REPROCESSING
availableCapability: READ_SENSOR_SETTINGS
availableCapability: MANUAL_SENSOR
availableCapability: BURST_CAPTURE
availableCapability: MANUAL_POST_PROCESSING
Stabilization Mode: Video
previewSize: 2880 * 2156 (720:539)
previewSize: 2688 * 1512 (16:9)
previewSize: 2560 * 1440 (16:9)
previewSize: 2340 * 1080 (13:6)
previewSize: 2048 * 1536 (4:3)
previewSize: 1920 * 1440 (4:3)
previewSize: 1920 * 1080 (16:9)
previewSize: 1600 * 1200 (4:3)
previewSize: 1440 * 1080 (4:3)
previewSize: 1280 * 960 (4:3)
previewSize: 1280 * 768 (5:3)
previewSize: 1280 * 720 (16:9)
previewSize: 1080 * 1080 (1:1)
previewSize: 1024 * 738 (512:369)
previewSize: 1024 * 768 (4:3)
previewSize: 864 * 480 (9:5)
previewSize: 800 * 600 (4:3)
previewSize: 800 * 480 (5:3)
previewSize: 720 * 1280 (16:9)
previewSize: 720 * 480 (3:2)
previewSize: 640 * 480 (4:3)
previewSize: 640 * 400 (8:5)
previewSize: 640 * 360 (16:9)
previewSize: 352 * 288 (11:9)
previewSize: 320 * 240 (4:3)
previewSize: 240 * 320 (4:3)
previewSize: 176 * 144 (11:9)
photoSize: 2560 * 1440 (16:9)
photoSize: 2340 * 1080 (13:6)
photoSize: 2048 * 1536 (4:3)
photoSize: 1920 * 1440 (4:3)
photoSize: 1920 * 1080 (16:9)
photoSize: 1600 * 1200 (4:3)
photoSize: 1440 * 1080 (4:3)
photoSize: 1280 * 960 (4:3)
photoSize: 1280 * 768 (5:3)
photoSize: 1280 * 720 (16:9)
photoSize: 1080 * 1080 (1:1)
photoSize: 1024 * 738 (512:369)
photoSize: 1024 * 768 (4:3)
photoSize: 864 * 480 (9:5)
photoSize: 800 * 600 (4:3)
photoSize: 800 * 480 (5:3)
photoSize: 720 * 1280 (16:9)
photoSize: 720 * 480 (3:2)
photoSize: 640 * 480 (4:3)
photoSize: 640 * 400 (8:5)
photoSize: 640 * 360 (16:9)
photoSize: 352 * 288 (11:9)
photoSize: 320 * 240 (4:3)
photoSize: 240 * 320 (4:3)
photoSize: 176 * 144 (11:9)
videoSize: 2880 * 2156 (720:539)
videoSize: 2688 * 1512 (16:9)
videoSize: 2560 * 1440 (16:9)
videoSize: 2340 * 1080 (13:6)
videoSize: 2048 * 1536 (4:3)
videoSize: 1920 * 1440 (4:3)
videoSize: 1920 * 1080 (16:9)
videoSize: 1600 * 1200 (4:3)
videoSize: 1440 * 1080 (4:3)
videoSize: 1280 * 960 (4:3)
videoSize: 1280 * 768 (5:3)
videoSize: 1280 * 720 (16:9)
videoSize: 1080 * 1080 (1:1)
videoSize: 1024 * 738 (512:369)
videoSize: 1024 * 768 (4:3)
videoSize: 864 * 480 (9:5)
videoSize: 800 * 600 (4:3)
videoSize: 800 * 480 (5:3)
videoSize: 720 * 1280 (16:9)
videoSize: 720 * 480 (3:2)
videoSize: 640 * 480 (4:3)
videoSize: 640 * 400 (8:5)
videoSize: 640 * 360 (16:9)
videoSize: 352 * 288 (11:9)
videoSize: 320 * 240 (4:3)
videoSize: 240 * 320 (4:3)
videoSize: 176 * 144 (11:9)
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Hey, thanks a lot for the report!!! :slightly_smiling_face:

The report is almost the same. It is even missing the super wide angle camera as well. Therefore, I assume that it somehow works differently as a system app. No idea how to test this. :thinking:

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The report app would have to be installed as a system app and have the right permissions set in AndroidManifest.xml + added to the allow list to access the wide angle lens / additional functionality, just like a camera app, you won’t get a report of all the capatibilities this way.

More details:

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OK, then there is no way to test if Open Camera can access the TOF sensor.

@Volker how does it look otherwise? Would you say that with Open Camera all functions are usable or have you noticed that something is missing?

I don’t know if the TOF sensor suffers from the same limitations, I was mostly interested in the wide angle lense to be honest.

If someone can answer that, it’s @xblax :slightly_smiling_face:

I don’t miss anything. As it was already mentioned the output of the cam is max 12MP which is enough for me.
Still I’ve the impression that the stock cam, with various improvements this year, may be better now than /e/OS+OpenCamera.

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Yes, of course the wide-angle camera is the most important thing! :slightly_smiling_face: I feel the same way. But since I can not judge whether installing as a system app “only” solves the problem with the wide-angle camera or even more, I was curious to know how it is so with open camera as a system app.

Unfortunately, we will have to wait a long time for the right solution from Fairphone. I have the feeling that the solution will no longer come… :disappointed_relieved:

That could be, of course. Open Camera is generally not the best app in terms of photo quality. But nice to hear that all the features are usable. :slightly_smiling_face:

Would be a dream if it would work with the gcam ports too. Then we would have all the features AND good image quality. Let’s wait and see…

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