I dont have done this!
Wow… Interesting road you take here and it has absolutely nothing at all to do with the intitial statememt I responded to.
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“TeamB58 is a company […] However I don’t see TeamB58" as a company”. Ok.
And since you “read” my post about the Fariphone gerrit, but still asked for it, here it is:
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It is a nice read, but how I understand it is, that it’s about how the electronic suppliers need to treat their employees. Nowhere is this about freelance software developers. Where does it say what Fairphone is paying them? Is Fairphone itself applying those “Fair Factory Standards” to themselves, since they are in a way the employee of those freelancers? I assume so, but it’s really convoluted, since they talk about those employees of factory workers, while they too hire freelancers for them in countries with low wages, etc.
you twist my words and take them out of context…
thats what I wrote
and now I will stop feeding and let you twist around on your own. Merry christmas!
It’s a nice way of thinking because others do so, therefore Fairphone does it to.
I rest my case.
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I gave my FP3 to my mum and it’s still rocking absolutely fine. But my FP4 is just a buggy laggy mess.
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In fact, I don’t really understand why you’re so angry about this. Fairphone has faults, sure, but they have come a long way in a very short time and created some amazing things. Also, if you don’t like the phone, buy another phone. If you like the phone enough to stick around, point out the flaws and give them a break. Going on and on about negative stuff makes me think you’re a troll.
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You don’t have to be a troll to be dissatisfied with Fairphone.
I have owned an FP1, two FP2s, an FP3, and an FP4. I was one of Fairphone’s supporters when I pre-ordered the FP1 in 2013. The FP1 was actually unusable, and some promises were not kept. As far as I remember, the display was supposed to be replaceable on the FP1, but when it was delivered, it wasn’t as Fairphone had announced. The two FP2 completely failed within 2.5 years (core module defective). The FP3 suffered sudden death after a hike, and the FP4 had a whole bunch of bugs.
It is often recommended here to have a second device. With a Fairphone, you need that. I bought a Gigaset and haven’t needed a second device since. The Gigaset works without any problems. I haven’t experienced that with Fairphone since January 2014.
Support wasn’t very good with the FP2 and has gotten even worse. I’m glad I no longer own a Fairphone and will never buy one again.
It would also be nice if they were fair to their customers
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I empathize. I ended up switching to a different brand recently and haven’t regretted. I was really excited about Fairphone. I’m generally pleased with the hardware, I was willing to accept the drawbacks. But the software problems are unacceptable at this price point. I don’t want a phone that randomly goes into a death spiral and drains the battery. It’s a shame really.
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I do think the FP4 is the first one where I could say the hardware was good enough for the average user. Cameras as fine, speed is fine. That’s why it’s frustrating that now we’re dealing with many software issues, which can be tested and updated without replacing phones.
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I am mostly fine with my FP4 that I bought end of 2021. I knew that I would get medium hardware for a slightly higher price. That was OK for me and the expected “sacrifice” for being more fair.
The thing that bothers me most is an issue with battery drain that seems to be connected to mobile data (in German: 🇩🇪 Batterie entlädt sich im Standby Modus extrem schnell). Without mobile data my (initial/first) battery lasts 2-3 days which is fair, I think.
Some recent events related to the A15 update gave me some trust issues: The random reboots with the initial update (Reboots after A15 upgrade) and then several bricked phones with the next one (see Software Update: FP4.QREL.15.15.2).
I never experienced problems with the A13 updates and I appreciated the advent of A15 but I think I will be much more careful now and wait some time and check the forum before updating 
But all in all I’m satisfied and I hope that I can use this phone as long as (sanely) possible.
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I’ve had a FP4 since April 2023 and was satisfied up until FP4.QREL.15.15.2, that’s why I never visited the forum before.
Happy New Year, everyone! Hope you’re all doing well.
I took some time over the holidays to switch to LineageOS and I can say, that I might actually stick to my Fairphone for another couple of years.
The switch was rather straight forward, though some things I would do different now, before switching. Overall I’m pleased.
Sure, there are some annoyances (like the music controll, got it kinda fixed) and apps that won’t work on LineageOS (or with unlocked bootloader, I don’t know). I’d say it works for me. Especially not using Google anymore has been pleasent (I did install MindTheGapps though, just incase I’ll need it at some point).
The hardware is still the same, so my battery desperately needs to be swapped. I’m hoping that the next one holds for longer. With this beaten up battery it’s hard to say wether the problems of the drain are gone or not, but we’ll see. I’ll be ordering a new one these days.
I had to order a new phone for my mom and decided on a Google Pixel 9a, since the support is just shy of the FP6, costs way less and I don’t won’t my mom to have any problems with her phone (since her problems will be mine in the end). Sadly there were no other alternatives to phones with a long update guarantee. So yeah, got rid of Google on my phone, but bought a Google phone for my mom. It is what it is.
That’s all for now. Hope you’re having a wonderfull rest of your week!
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What would you do differently?
Hey, sorry for the late response.
Nothing major, but a couple of things I did regret not doing diligently enough:
- Write down your Google recovery codes or know where you stored them years ago (did find them after looking for a but, but definitely made me sweat)
- Create a backup using tools, such as Neo Backup or similar. Or even just doing one through adb directly.
- Taking screenshots of every setting and arrangement of icons/buttons. Man does it take time to get used to the new location of my flashlight button in the quick action tiles… but no idea where it actually was before.
- Should have never bought apps directly through the Google Playstore. Those purchases are now useless. Most of the previously purchased apps I (would) have switched off now either way, since they were not open source.
I think those were the ones that actually bugged me the most or I still remember the best. Hope this helps someone.
Cheers
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The Pixel 9a has official support for GrapheneOS which is supposedly the best mobile OS for privacy. 
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