There is no third camera on the back that is a sensor.
The Fairphone cameras, although having removable batteries were produced with the purpose of supporting Fairer mineral resources and better wages for the factory workers, so that’s where the premium price goes not on the camera, software or modular construction.
Sure the modular constrcution is atractive, but then like you some may prefer a better camera, without buying a camera.
Overall your disapppointment about your choice of purchase is being aired on a public forum which Fairphone are not regular readers of. If you want Fairphone to take note of your compliants you would be better of contacting them via official support, not that I think they will be able to help much, and almost definetly not in the short term.
If you have just bought the phone and are unhappy you can return it for a refund. If howevre you have been using for 14 days before you discovered it not to your liking, appart from a third party sell I’m not sure what help you can get.
By the way making a statement as in the topic is not asking for help.
Didn’t you notice I was confusing the 3rd slot with 3rd camera? Cuz the second camera is on third slot… Left top cam1 right top one second slot and sensor and bottom left slot third and second camera…
Anyway… you can come to conclusions I’m trying to at least get something when I do a night pic… Look at those one… Some where made with stock photo app on 1/2 sec exposure auto iso and some with camera fv_5 app that allow up 60 seconde expositions I think using stacking picture method… None of those work it’s total useless.
Quotes "The Fairphone cameras, although having removable batteries were produced with the purpose of supporting Fairer mineral resources and better wages for the factory workers, so that’s where the premium price goes not on the camera, software or modular construction.
Sure the modular constrcution is atractive, but then like you some may prefer a better camera, without buying a camera."
Canot believe it statement… An 200 buck 2010 phone delivered better pic …
Was made by Samsung (Corean) that’s not Chinese lowcost
2021phone should do at least same… We talk about 570euro new phone (480 i got. ) Made in china…
Branded by hollandaise company…
Don’t you remember all phone had removable battery? Thats not a fact that justify 500buck phone .
Furthermore, I would like to share the “night photos” I’ve been taking in the past 2 months.
Please note that they all have been done without a tripod (that’s why there are all a bit blurry and shaky), and I have literary no clue about the whole topic. I’ve been using the Wichaya8 Google Camera app (which I found from one of the above topics) to take them and used the night mode.
Fairphone is not a greenwash product. They have multiple certificates and rewards for what they do. It’s not marketing. They only recently started to make a profit. The reason other phones are cheaper for what you get is because you don’t pay for the environmental and social costs. Since the planet is not doing well, with everyone on it, it’s worth it. We need to change. Sure, it would be nice if they had true Pixel quality cameras. One day they may get there. They need your support for that.
They need to do software upgrade to allow 30second continuous expositions Time…
And if the camera is materialy unable To do that sorry then they fails on the camera choice…
And so I will stay unhappy with it until at least they release a camera module that fit my need.
I want low lux capabilities.
And I totally don’t care of 48mp pix
I do totally prefer 12mp one with Physical zoom and sharp detail instead of more pix average sharpnes and grainy
And I’m not asking for reflex grade sensor…
At least something that’s not software limited when you do astrophotography you need go up at least to 10second…
Not lot of people do astrophotography? I don’t care.
I shouldn’t have to pass time here to do a pic of the milky way
It should stock being able to 30 sec exposure… Because 2010 160euro phone was able to … This one is 2021and 570buck
Other brand totally capable of doing long lasting 2010 phone. They just stopped doing it when those glued battery came to the market…
There are some very decent cameras, that fulfill your wishes perfectly. A Panasonic Lumix or Sony for example. Why did you by a smartphone instead?
Please show me a smartphone camera with physical zoom. There is only one (Sony Xperia 1 IV) with a very limited zoom range and a rather high price tag.
Those night pic u show here are shit… More exposure and a little stacking and u would get that beach clear and the sky more bright you d have to software dim the luminosity on it. Then u could say this pic is decent .
The sky pic i shit only mainstar is visible go catch the milky way with that…
Because a smartphone is no camera, it’s a smartphone. A telephone with some extras. One has an OLED screen, the other a 3.5mm jack, another one a glued battery, the next one a triple camera setup.
You can’t have all in one. Most people don’t even try to take astrophysical pictures with this pinhole camera in their smartphone. Others use a specialized software for that.
We understand, that you expected something different, but it’s just not there, so deal with it or sell your FP4in the market place here in the forum and buy something else.
I don’t know whether a Samsung Galaxy Xcover 6 might fulfill your needs. But it has an interchangeable battery too.
It’s a camera too, but no replacement for a real one.
You can’t expect to do with a smartphone everything you can do with a decent camera. Especially when it’s about some very rare use cases like astrophotography.
Not really. It may be an attractive feature but if I want a camera I would buy a camera.
HAS not IS
The main issue as pointed out above it is more like a pin hole camera. Even small digital cameras of 20+ years ago have a lens that lets in 30+ times more light and half decent cameras 100 times more light.
Extending the exposure time is no compensation but it will provide ‘extra’