At least in Germany I see more and more little kids wearing hearing aids, I don´t know about the details, but I´d say that either there are much more kids hearing bad than 20 years ago or the doctors do more testing and give kids the first hearing aids at a much earlier age (the technology is much better than 20 years ago, so this would make sense).
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Please bear in mind that normally hearing aids use 2 BT-connections. One for every ear. I also tried with another phone (not Fairphone) to connect a third BT-decice. It did not work.
Usually you can test a HA at home for some days. I tested many (Think the specialist hates me for for this 
- so you can find the right one. In my opinion it is mainly a matter of the chip in the HA whether it connects to many different BT-connections or not. The so-called ASHA is nice but I assume that in future more and more HAs will connect like other BT-devices to all modern phones.
My FP 4 works with my HA for streaming music and audio books- without ASHA. But telcons are not streamed. For me no problem as I can use the loudspeaker instead but for other people it is a problem.
Test as much as you can even if the seller hates you ;-
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Thank you for pointing this problem with one BT connection for each HA. I didn´t think of this. And you are right - this is a problem with other phones, too.
But it´s still registered as only one BT device on the smartphone.
If I compare this with the audio device settings of the HAs on the Windows computer, there I can see more options in the device list (for example for my ComPilot from Phonak):
- Connection with HA audio/mic
- Connection with HA audio
- Connection with HA mic
- Connection with other mic
With these options, I can pick audio for my HAs (better sound quality than with the audio/mic option) and use the other microfone for speaking.
I would really appreciate it, if I could do the same on my phone.
I connect my hearing aids with my Compilot II and the Compilot II connects as one connection through bluetooth to my Fairphone 3 and the same for my Fairphone 4.
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Exactly.
But when you do a call, there is no way to use only audio to HA and as mic the phone or an external BT mic.
I´m testing the Phonak Audeo Life right now and I can already confirm it´s compatible with FP3+ with /e/ and Windows 10 computers (with BT chips generations from the last two years - I didn´t test older ones).
The ComPilot isn´t necessary anymore and the “myPhonak” app is working.
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Dear Freigeist, i’m installing the Phonac app and Will try out on my Resound aids. A first bit of hope since long. Thanks
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Many thanks. This info is valuable as:
- It works also on a custom Rom (/e/) without proprietory Google ASHA
2.Working is depending on the HA-chip and not only on the phone
3.Time seems to be over for HA-manufacturers to determine the phone we have to use and I can stay with my Fairphone.
Very good news!
I hope it will also work with a Linux-computer.
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Mainly linking for reference reasons, maybe some of the German-speaking folks can contribute: 🇩🇪 Telefonieren mit Hörgeräten (Oticon)
Is there anything new about this item? Why cannot Fairphone bring the Asha protocol in a software update or something like that? I am sincerely missing some options of my hearing aids because I cannot connect them with my Fairphone 3
Hello @Popko
which hearing aids do you have?
Regarding ASHA:
So, you can you could start a poll in the forum to ask how many FP users do have ASHA hearing aids and send the result to FP support.
If there are enough, then maybe they will include it.
I learnt from this post that it seems not to depend on ASHA only but also on the hearing-aid itself. Resound is closely connected to Apple and only fully compatible to some dedicated phones e.g. Samsung and Pixel. But there are aids like Phonak working also with customs roms and I don’t believe that /e/ includes proprietory
ASHA.
My decision for next hearing aid is clear: Will accept only one working with nearly all phones like Bluetooth ear plugs do.
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Sorry for taking some time to answer …
The hearing aids I use are: AMPLIFON AMPLI-ENERGY R 3 P R SLV
So I need to look for hearing aids in the upcomming time frame. Using a FP3+ it would be intersting if something new came up from Fiarphone about this topic?
Thank you
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Right now I can’t use the Phonak Audeo Life anymore with my FP3 with /e/.
This started with the last update, so I think it´s related to the Bluetooth-audio-bug from
I hope this will be solved with the next update.
I came across this whilst looking for something else, but in my FP4 (build number FP4.SP28.B.065.20230420 Android 12 security update of 5 April 2023) in settings>accessibility there is a specific setting for hearing aids (under the header “Audio”)
Clicking it gives me the message “To pair your hearing aids, find and tap your device on the next screen. Make sure that your hearing aids are in pairing mode”, which I can either “cancel” (just exits the message pop up) or “continue” which brings me to a screen that looks identical to me to the regular Bluetooth connection screen.
My headphones (Fairbuds XL) do show up in there as well if I put it in pairing mode, but if I connect it here, it just connects as headphones, whilst the “Hearing aids” setting still displays “No hearing aids connected”, which seems to indicate that it is at the very least able to tell whether a Bluetooth device are hearing aids as opposed to headphones.
I don’t have hearing aids myself, so I can’t check anything more with actual hearing aids, but it might be something to look into for FP4 users who do have hearing aids. Perhaps FP has introduced some updates that now allow it to function better than before.
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Hi and welcome to the forum
Just to clarify this is a user forum and Fairphone will not the message unless they are contacted directly by a user, maybe via support@fairphone.com
I believe this is a problem with the last two OS versions, which have a problem with AptX or so.
The connection with my hearing aids (Phonak Audeo) did work before and I hope we’ll get a patch for this soon.
This was discussed in another thread and seems to be a bug in android made by Google.
And there seem to be some possible workarounds but I didn’t test them by myself:
Just got Phonak hearing aids today and could not pair them with FP4. Very disappointing. Hope this will be solved going forward.
In another thread on the Fairphone 4 @Yasen_Tomov wrote
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