šŸ’™ Blue heart as like symbol on the forum?

Hmmm ā€¦ couldnā€™t it be made configurable in the Interface section of the Profile preferences?
If the settings there are fixed or not easily customizable, there could be theme variants (ā€œFairphone Originalā€/ā€œFairphone Original Red Heartā€ and ā€œFairphone-New-2017ā€/ā€œFairphone-New-2017-Red-Heartā€) ā€¦ and yes, Iā€™m aware that this way of doing it wouldnā€™t scale well if we want to colour more UI elements differently :slight_smile: .

Well, life goes on, blue heart or red heart ā€¦
For Firefox thereā€™s @Roboeā€™s nice extension already.
And there are more general browser extensions out there for injecting CSS changes from the userā€™s side into any site.

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I asked @anon83519835 to make the necessary changes om September 2nd (over a week ago), when the discussion diverted and there seemed to be more people liking my proposal:

or not caring:

than being against it:

I agree that a poll is a good idea and I admit that i hadnā€™t thought about it. Please ask for a poll next time (or create one yourself). Thanks to @paulakreuzer, who simply went ahead and created a poll.

The reason for my rushing was that I didnā€™t want a discussion to get delayed like this one: Rearranging Categories (again) . It has been going on for a year between only a handful of people, we have found a consensus and no action has been taken. I asked @anon83519835 to also go ahead and do the changes, but if you like, we can also make a poll about that decision.

I think that the category structure has a much higher impact on the entrance barrier to the forum than the colour of the heart icon.

I like this idea because of the old Fairphone logo, but I think there is a reason, why Discourse chose the heart rather than the star, which is more like a symbol to bookmark your favourite websites.

It was neither.

I also didnā€™t want to abuse any power (if I had more power I might abuse it and change the ugly favicon ;)) and want to apologize for causing bad feelings with some people here. I hope you can accept the apology. :slight_smile:

Ps: I was indeed ā€œafkā€ (away from keyboard) the whole day. If Fairphone paid me, Iā€™d do the same working hours as @anon83519835. :wink:

PS:

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Maybe you missed this part:

While @Stefan already explained everything, there for sure are no hard feelings on my behalf nor have there ever been.

Still, as I just now learned about the ā€œRefugees Welcomeeā€ case, that seems to have had some parallels:
Stefan lists 8 users participating in this discussion.
There are nearly 20,000 registered users; maybe 2,000 of them active?

In my humble opinion the following could be a good basis for decisions:
If it enhances security, useability or is required by law, just do it and talk about it (parallel or in advance)
If itā€™s just design, fashion or individual liking and there are less than 20 people even interested enough to join the discussion, donā€™t do it.
If itā€™s design etc and you get a lively discussion between many users, do a poll and act according to it, talking about it (see above).

Of course, thatā€™s just what I would do, as I would guess it could help minimizing miscommunication and misunderstandings.

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Can you change my vote to ā€œnot caringā€ please? I voted before I read the entire thread.

Youā€™ll have to do that yourself. Just click on ā€œhide resultsā€ and change your vote.

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so what is the deal now?..I need to change the heart in a star?..a blue one? :smiley: I can do that also if neededā€¦

Wait till poll is over in 6 days.

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Letā€™s implement a ā€œheart colorā€ option in the personal user settings.

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This would of course be optimal.

@anon83519835 if you can do that then I guess we donā€™t even have to wait for the poll results. Default should probably be standard red.

Is a personal setting really necessary? Gosh, itā€™s just a silly colour, so much drama for that. IMO it doesnā€™t worth the ā€œmake a Discourse pluginā€, ā€œmaintain it between Discourse updatesā€ and ā€œkeep a new register in the database for each user preferenceā€ efforts. But thatā€™s @anon83519835ā€™s decission, I guess.

I just see that as an arrogant solution* (ā€œI donā€™t want anyone to take a decission so letā€™s involve other peopleā€™s work to non-fix this with absurd technology I wonā€™t take part inā€). While Fairphone invest in going deep in how the production chain for fair gold in Uganda works, it really sounds like a totally Fairphone-antagonic solution to me.

Do whatever you want, I really donā€™t care about the stupid colour. But I care about this community. If a ā€œlikeā€ colour has the power to break us in two parts, we are no longer a community but just a network of individuals. Think about that.

*= I shouldnā€™t need to clarify this, but anyway. An arrogant solution doesnā€™t imply the people that come up with that solution is arrogant at all.

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Please donā€™t judge things that you donā€™t know anything about.

I like the idea of a ā€œrelevance hurdleā€ that is binding for changes to the forum. Iā€™m wondering, would it make Rearranging Categories (again) obsolete? ā€œOnlyā€ 13 people have posted there.


In general Iā€™d just like to mention that itā€™s always easier to complain afterwards than to come up with good ideas before an action fails.

PS: Iā€™m very happy with the browser extension @Roboe made and if Iā€™d known that itā€™s ā€œso easyā€ Iā€™d maybe never started this topic in the first placeā€¦

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I thought about it.
In my opinion itā€™s not the question wether a blue or a red heart are to be preferred, that is ā€œdividingā€ the community in this thread, but rather the way of communicating/acting with regard to that ā€œcolorā€-topic.
As I perceive it, it was the feeling ā€œWhy do you ask my opinion, if you just do as you like before a decision has been reached?ā€
And please ā€¦ the ā€œyouā€ is an impersonal one and not directed at any individual community member.

And doesnā€™t the way we communicate make it a community?
If someone is complaining about something I did or said, I often have to grant, that I used the wrong expression or said something that could be misunderstood or did not take someone elses interests into consideration.

As you can see from the following example:

I had no intention to judge anything. I just meant to reference a remark by Paula to explain, why I made the statement that followed.
And I am sorry, that you got another impression.

The poll has closed, can we switch back to the default setting (red heart)?

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@anon83519835 the people has spoken. :heart: it is.
(or is it already switched back? I still have the plugin active, so I wonā€™t see the difference)

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I have just liked your message to check, and no, itā€™s still blue.

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this is fixed nowā€¦

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Just a note: my plugin is still available. Just PM me if something breaks.

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i think blueā€™d be quite nice, indeed ā€¦ a bit weird discussion, though.

ā€¦and the discussion is over.