Technically possible is even more, you can make the FP5 a 500g brick if you want, with a huge battery, but still I ask why? Because you can? I don‘t get the point of this discussion.
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Most people hate to charge their phone twice a day.
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Why should that be necessary?
And why should 20% more capacity bring you over the day instead?
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Might be … based on what? The only example given so far is for a device double the volume of the Fairphone 5.
What kind of a discussion is this?
I want to have more battery life in all my battery powered devices, that’s for sure. But if I want to run around announcing to vendors they could and should do better with their batteries right now, I better have some stuff ready to back this up apart from comparing apples to oranges as well as pointing to fantasy land.
My priority is not to defend Fairphone’s battery development here, I don’t work for them, I just find the approach to making a point here pretty subpar, to say the least.
I’ll join calling the Fairphone 5 battery out as soon as there’s a logically sound argument being made that it could have been done better.
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That’s based on my experience with other Android phones. 4200 is tight for ± 25 percent of users on these specs. 5200 could last a day for most of those. For me even that might be tight, but I can adjust my usage at that point.
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But most people can use their FP4 with less than 4.000mAh for more than just a working day. So adding much more capacity for all of them, to satisfy some single heavy users, doesn‘t make any sense to me.
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Yes but this new device will be disappointing on the battery life.
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One more reason to keep one consistent formfactor cross-generationally, unlink the sale of phone and battery, and sell multiple battery options.
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Ok so because very few people would do that, all people should get a greater battery? Pretty sure the latter needs more recources…
@melroy89 the dutch tweakers review also recorded an extremely low battery life. I think you’ll just have to charge it a second time for an hour during the day as well. After a month it’ll start feeling like your ‘new normal’.
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I can’t imagine it’ll be worse than with the FP2. I might not be the most extreme power user, but I sometimes have the impression that it is considered normal to stare at the phone for many hours per day and thus need a huge battery to keep up with that.
I won’t say anything against a long battery life but I’d rather like to see the existing battery being efficiently used than to compensate bad usage by just “more”. And from all I read so far it seems like the bad battery time is at least not related to the SoC in general, so maybe there’s still some hope for improvements (and all reviews are based on pre-series models).
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Unfortunately that’ll also mean that it’ll degrade more quickly due t the increased number of charge cycles.
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If you just charge it twice from around 30% to around 90% it doesn’t degrade nearly as fast as having it run down and then charging to 100%.
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Indeed. Finally somebody understands my standpoints.
Also you not always in a position to charge you phone mid-day. Like when you are on a trip. Eg. Walking in a forest and you need to navigate back using GPS for instance (just an example).
That being said. I also agree with better software optimizations! Which is just as important (if not more!).
Android and GNU/Linux (Richard might read this) need to go to the deepest level of sleep. Only consuming 0.02A or less Ideally. Background processes should kept to the bare minimal as well.
Recently got my fairphone 5 and I’m generally enjoying it. I think we can all admit the 4200 mah battery is a bit underwhelming. In the future are fairphone able to make a larger capacity battery that could be installed by the user? Seems like an easy option with the easily replaceable battery.
No, we cannot. I’m happy with the battery performance of my FP5, my FP2 performed much worse and this taught me to keep the eyes off the screen often enough and to watch out to not use inefficient apps. That being said I’m of course always open for any improvements, but I’d rather like to have them on the consumption side than on the battery.
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With this chipset? Impossible 
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