Indeed, my MacBook was a second-hand model from 2006 and it has given me a very good service for many years, so one of my options is a new MacBook. But I’m worried about the ethics of Apple and was thinking in buying a more ethical computer.
I willl check Thinkpads, I don’t know about the brand.
A used one: bought by a company and never or seldom used. No pollution, great conditions and great price.
Look on eBay for “grade A” notebooks from reputable sellers.
Many young Chinese workers producing Apple iPads for consumers across the globe took their own lives (source).
The latest Mac notebooks cannot be upgraded because most components are soldered onto the motherboard, reducing the life of the device.
I am using a 2008 T61 Lenovo laptop daily. Although I could buy any computer I wanted, this is doing everything I need and I have no reason to upgrade.
The legendary Thinkpad build quality went down after T4X and again after T6X.
As a balance between price, performace and quality, I suggest one of the “20” generation (X220/W520/T520), the last with the (nearly) original legendary “Thinkpad” keyboard.
Best Choice: Using Linux on that Macbook (if possible).
Second best: if one of your friends wants to throw away his computer, you may use it.
Third, if second hand seems not suitable to you: the Pi-Top (which may require at least some knowledge of the Raspberry Pi or similar computers, or the will to get that knowledge).
I guess, there is no really fair computer out there, atm.
I just did the same thing last week on a 8 year old lenovo Laptop (not a ThinkPad) with 2GB RAM and a middle-class processor (personal estimation) and it works very smooth compared to the previous Windows Vista (of course ). Haven’t tried multimedia but for office stuff it’s perfectly fine. Like in Ubuntu light basic programs come preinstalled. So this is actually quite a good advise for a sustainable computer purchase IMO.
My opinion as well. Close to €400 for a refurbished laptop with a processor almost 10 yrs old (Intel C2D) and 2 GB RAM is not that impressive, even if it will run great with a Linux distro. Shouldn’t be difficult to find an equivalent for half the price or less, unless you’re very keen on getting a small (12") screen.
A second hand PC + Linux is a great alternative, though. Personally I have only good experience of Dell computers, both at home and at work. Very reliable hardwarewise. I’m stil able to use my 12 yrs old Inspiron 1100 laptop - with the original battery!
Wel, I started to think it over again (I’m among those who appreciate smaller screens) but then I noted that the X200 doesn’t have a touchpad. Instead it has a ‘nub’ among the keys. Might be more ‘efficient’, as the website says, but an ergonomic disaster IMHO.
That’s what I also thought before I got my X201. My model also does not have a touchpad but there is not much room for a touchpad anyway. I’m perfectly fine with the Trackpoint Lenovo provides. As you said it’s very efficient, but also precise and actually fun to use. In longer notebook sessions I use a little mouse though.
Anyway, the ThinkPad X2xx and T4xx series are great choices for used notebooks. The X201 notebooks already have an i5 processor and are easily upgradable with an SSD. Also you have the mechanical stability the ThinkPad is known for (I did the stand-on-your-X201 test without doing any harm to the notebook -> see this video). By the way, Lenovo provides repair/maintenance manuals and videos.
Sorry for bumping the old topic.
I was just also wondering about fair laptops/computers because those probably have a large impact on ecology, people and the environment. When browsing through the mentioned site of ethical consumer I noticed how all the big companies are score terribly and the rather unknown ones score fair (no pun intended) . Is it just because they know more about the larger companies or because they actually are so much worse?
Anyone knows similar sites like the one above? What laptop brands did you buy?
5 years ago I bought a Schenker notebook because they advertised on their website that the laptop was “Made in Germany”. On wikipedia it is stated clearly that they produce in China as well. Also the product I bought was not of a good quality I believe. I might not be able to keep it as long as I intended