to flash another system you must unlock the bootloader
-normally you would lock it afterwards
-for the FP4 there is a bug that causes that get_unlock_ability is set to 0 (it should stay 1) and therefore if something goes wrong once locked you might end up in a bootloop and only FP can reflash FPOS
Hello.
I am new user. I have a problem. Each time the phone is restarted or started, Orange Belgium applications are reinstalled or reactivated. I have never installed them myself. These are App Center Orange, Orange Manual Selector, Orange TV and My Orange. How to solve this problem? The Fairphone was purchased directly from the manufacturer’s website. Thanks.
I have a similar issue with Orange France, it started right when I installed the Orange eSIM, they started pushing stuff onto my phone: “Hey, you haven’t got enough useless operator apps, let us help you with that!”
Seems it’s an Orange thing if Orange Belgium does it too…
I managed to get rid of most of that trash, except My Orange, which comes back each time I reboot my phone. It asks me to configure it, I quit it, and it stays put till the next reboot…
I’m afraid we can’t do much except hope they eventually fire the marketing idiots who thought of this joke, but I wouldn’t hold my breath.
If you mean amoun’s post above mine, it links to a 2017 thread linking to an article long gone, by a user long gone. Comments let me suppose what it was about, but I wouldn’t call it “information”, especially since that thread is 6 years old and the official (?) statement has been since removed. I’d call it “history”.
Long story short, I for one still don’t know for sure who is to blame for this, but then again I don’t care, I just want this “My Orange” app to leave me alone. Some Orange apps are indeed useful to me and I keep them, others, for instance a second Play Store (!), isn’t.
Yes, it is pushed by Orange.
I didn’t have it until I set up the Orange France eSIM, at which point I (well, my phone) was suddenly flooded with all the apps Orange has ever made…
Some of them I managed to uninstall, but “My Orange” is the cornerstone of Orangitude and thus will come back, uninvited, repeatedly, as soon as your phone has any kind of data connection…
I’m still running with Orange France as they’re to me the best provider in terms of network quality (as well as the only one selling the FP4) and I’ve dealt with this issue the only way it can be dealt with:
=> Rooting the device
=> Using Magisk power to debloat the phone
As far as I know there isn’t any other way to get rid of this nastyware.
The same happens on Android 13 on a Fairphone 5. And I’m not even using Orange, but UNDO, a virtual provider on the Orange network. Is it still impossible to turn off this behavior without rooting? I think bank apps complain about rooting.
Thanks. But I found in another topic, you can open the App Center app and disable all apps there. Then it only installs one instead of three apps each time.
For me, “My Orange” reappears in my notification bar each time I reboot the phone (which fortunately only happens about once/month), but by now it has apparently expired, and when I click on its notification (“Configure your phone!”) it just vanishes instead of starting…
I can live with that. All others I’ve managed to uninstall (except a couple which by accident can be actually mildly useful, like “Orange TV”).
I’m getting really annoyed by the orange manual selector.
I tried to remove it over adb which made it disappear from the app list but it would start anyway after a restart. I disable it remove everything and still it starts.
However today it pushed it over the top, after the last update, installing a game on my phone which has the typical mobile game predatory concepts.
I’m talking about Royal Match. it got installed by Orange manual selector. This pushes the Fairphone into not recommendable for me.
How can a carrier in France impact my phone soo bad. I believe it would be better for FP to not sell there rather than to keep this damage to their brand.
Let me know if anyone knows a solution apart from rooting. I still need to use banking Apps.
You’ll find a lot of discussion about this on the forum. Of course this is unlikely to be Fairphone’s choice, but I think you’ll find it’s the same story for all models bought from Orange.
In the case of Fairphones, I get the impression that even if the phone is bought from FP or a different reseller, if Orange is your provider, then you’ll get the apps.
I moved away from Orange for this reason - among many, many others.
“Official” info here:
As you’ll see, there is a work-around solution …
[Edit] - If you feel strongly about this, and that’s the impression I get, then you might consider complaining to Orange who after all are at the origin of this problem.
Now everything makes sense. I’m with simyo and apparently orange is the network provider for Simyo (in spain). I wasn’t even aware of that. I thought this was linked to a default fairphone installation.
Then I’ll apparently have to change provider …
cheers @yvmuell. I wasn’t aware that this topic was suitable. Since I read only once into it but wasn’t aware that it’s connected to my network since I don’t have a contract with orange.