Okay, thanks for the info. That’s a weird choice but at least changing launchers isn’t difficult
Well, that’s iOS style - and as always a matter of taste…
Of course it’s a matter of choice. It just seems like a weird design choice to put an ios based launcher as the default of an android os.
Probably not that weird if you know Gaël Duval and his preferences better…
Or to make it independent of his person the idea is probably to use the style, that some call “the most user friendly for technically unskilled users” (iOS), for a phone which shall bring “Google-free” to the technically unskilled user…
Looks promising, is there a way to go back to the original ROM already?
As far as I know doing a full TWRP backup is not possible atm, because it currently cannot deal with a encrypted disk.
And the full install package of official ROM was not officially released (yet)
EDIT: I just read we have an OTA file of A.094
so, how’s the experience so far? any major bugs you’ve guys found? because I’m quite tempted to flash it this weekend.
That’s sadly only a delta update though, not a fully complete factory image
Experience is good
Found no major bugs yet
I noticed that in the image for the FP4 neither a secure ntp server is set nor a secure captive portal.
both outputs return 'null
adb shell 'settings get global captive_portal_https_url'
adb shell settings get global ntp_server
so i set pool.ntp.org as ntp server and kuketz as captive portal.
adb shell settings put global ntp_server de.pool.ntp.org
adb shell 'settings put global captive_portal_http_url "http://captiveportal.kuketz.de"'
adb shell 'settings put global captive_portal_https_url "https://captiveportal.kuketz.de"'
adb shell 'settings put global captive_portal_fallback_url "http://connectivity.ecloud.global"'
adb shell 'settings put global captive_portal_other_fallback_urls "http://connectivity.ecloud.global"'
I am surprised that nothing is set by default.
Does anyone know if completely removing microg is possible? While I like the degoogle idea in theory it just adds too many problems and forces improvised solutions to make the phone work like my previous one (and even then not everything works). On my previous phone I had LOS (which doesn’t have microg or gapps preinstalled) and used nano gapps with xprivacylua blocking data access. If I’m being honest I’d prefer to go back to that.
Examples of things not working:
- Drive (and any app relying on Drive for backups)
- Youtube (neither Vanced nor the basic one work, the app crashes after a few seconds of watching)
- Same with Netflix, Prime and D+
I cannot find the microG core system as app. so I think it would not be possible. it is implemented in the system
OK, but you have to wait until it is available for FP4…
very hardcore stuff.
with such apps I can well imagine that everything is not doing right
Yeah, I know that. I guess I’ll use my old phone until then.
very hardcore stuff.
with such apps I can well imagine that everything is not doing right
Problem being that I have no idea what could be wrong. Everything else is working fine and I actually thought everything was working until I wanted to watch a YT video this morning.
to watch YT Videos you could try the F-Droid Version NewPipe | F-Droid - Free and Open Source Android App Repository
I assume that those apps are dependet on GSF and even if microG is somehow pretending this, there is never a guarantee it works and it can break every time.
Edit for further reference FP4: Google-free Android - #77 by AnotherElk
I woudl also suggest when you find issues with specific apps, to report to Murena, so in case there are bugs in the system causing this, those can be fixed
Hehe, after unlock your bootloader, flashing your Rom, locking the bootloader again, finding out about the the slot a/b thing to escape the boot loop, it IS funny (and probably unexpected by most) to first see a launcher meant for technically most unskilled user … Even people buying the Murena phone do not necessarily switch from iPhone. However, taste is taste, and after the first surprise I left it as is (There are a lot of issues more urgent at Hand)
Yeah, that’s what I think, too.
example?
Thank you! Was wondering what was going on… lol
Oh, this was a mere personal remark. My aim is to get rid of as much of the tracking stuff of “survilliance capitalism” as possible. After setting up my own web calendar server, file cloud, adresse book etc., using DuckDuckGo Browser and Blockade app - and after beginning to read privacy policies of commonly used apps and web sites, I just start to realize that there is much more tracking and profiling going on than I ever thought. And with my freemail provider beeing one of the worst, even analyzing mail content, I obviously will have to find a better mail solution asap. But I don’t feel like setting up and maintain my own mail server. I wonder if the service of /e/ foundation will do?
good point!
Thanks for that!