Is here anybody successfully using a third-party FM radio app on his/her FP3?
(A Twitter user asked me that.)
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No, but I just found another specification Listing:
- NFC
- Audio Jack
- Radio FM
- Computer sync
- OTA sync
- Tethering.
- VoLTE
- VoWiFi
So, I assume that somewhere the reseller/test Websites and so on get their information from. One possibility: Radio FM was planned, but for the release to market Android version no stable app was available, so they dropped it?
I was wondering, maybe we can notice from the iFixit teardown.
How powerful does the receiver/antenna need to be of a FM radio? Where is the chip located?
The ear headphone cable is the antenna…
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Just to note: This doesn’t work for me. I extracted com.caf.fmradio from my Fairphone 2 running LineageOS 16.0 (so it’s Android 9.0, too), but the resulting FM2.apk doesn’t install on the Fairphone 3’s Android 9.0.
I could imagine it has something to do with FM radio being a system App … or that simply the tuner hardware isn’t there or doesn’t match … but I have no real insight.
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True, I have canceled my FP3 order. The LED can only signalize the charging state, LOL. Rooting the phonewill void the warranty, so no FM Radio or install a good Adblocker…
And of course, its closed source with google apps on board.
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Ehm, in my very humble opinion not for everyone or to be more precise for most users.
If one has the knowledg - i.e. you - it might be true of course.
Finally, I guess it takes just some more time, before an open OS will be available. Though it’s just my optimistic expectation of course.
There has been a quite lengthy discussion on this topic in the forum.
In short: Rooting does void the warranty only insofar, as the damage claimed as a warranty case was caused by rooting the phone. Any damage not caused by rooting the phone is of course still covered by warranty. (“Caused by” would of course include installing apps. that damage the phone by their root access. If that is even possible.)
The warranty therefore says
4.2 The Fairphone Warranty does not cover damage resulting from:
…
i. The Product has been rooted or unlocked.
And I really doubt, that installing a FM-radio will damage the phone.
But I doubt as well, that rooting the phone alone will solve the FM-radio issue, as the installation of the radio .apk that comes with LineageOS 16.0 unfortunately did not work for @AnotherElk
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Fact is, that many people - including me - want that kind of technology for their phone (and for the home as well).
I agree with that. FM of course has its flaws, but it can be used without any time limits, and it can always be heard, even without any cell phone contract or data network, and in any “internet storm” scenario as well.
By the way, streaming already accounts for the largest part of internet traffic, which puts an incredible toll on the bandwidth of local gsm/lte/wifi/… cells, and on the bandwidth of backbone connections, which is just as bad as the oh-so-low bandwidth efficiency of FM.
Aaaaanyway… coming back to the initial question: I, too, saw the FM feature when I ordered, and it has importance to me, so I, too, am now quite disappointed. It doesn’t matter where I saw this information, because silently correcting the feature list on the FP website definitely doesn’t suffice after different information has been sent out already.
As to FP’s engagement here: Indeed I don’t expect a response to every post by them, but if there is significant confusion and irritation such as here around the FM topic, which they could swiftly clarify (why are there contradictory specs, is the necessary HW present, are there regional legal restrictions, will future OS updates support the feature, …), then I would definitely expect them to do just that.
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100% agreement.
Some resellers’ websites even still list FM-radio (just checked the UK’s phone coop).
According to @Monica.Ciovica , Fairphone will work on at least harmonizing the informations out there.
If they do so, they for sure should make it a blog entry and clarify things for current users.
And I really would love to get some information, if the FM-radio could be added by software-update in the future.
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This is called crippleware. The hardware can feature X (leds blink on messages, play FM-radio). But the manufacturer of the device (fairphone) says no, you don’t get that.
Very sad… 
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Except that Fairphone does not have any incentive to make you buy a more expensive product with those features, because such a product doesn’t exist.
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They may not have any intention of doing this (I dont think so either), but they do. Other smartphones with snapdragon 632 processor have FM radio. What reason is there for withholding this feature from customers?
Maybe the manpower of the company are not enough. But if they dont talk to the community and make the software open source, nobody can help them.
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Every time they say anything here, they’ll be legally bound to that, so you want to be very careful with just spouting anything in the open.
They’ll give priority on issues, probably based on some kind of risk assessment (which includes the impact). The impact of a LED not changing colors or device not having FM, well, for you it appears to be the end of the world. For most users however, it is a minor nuisance at best.
And, yes, it is very likely they’re very busy right now as they just released a new product.
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The PF3 servicemenu application indeed contains a FM radio test. You won’t see it though because it was disabled. A comments hint to some kind of noise issue.
This is purely speculation from my part, but maybe this is just a solvable software issue.
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Not just that, we don’t know whether the headphone plug is properly wired to serve as antenna.
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Can anyone confirm if “SpiritF” works on a rooted Fairphone 3?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/spirit-fm/app-spirit2-free-source-real-fm-radio-t2951455
well we have the kernel sources, is there by any chances an FM driver in there that’s just disabled.
and if not. is there a phone with the same chipset with working FM chip that we have kernel sources? could simply patch the kernel to include the FM chip (if there is one, and if its not disabled in hardware / by fuse, or simply not soldered to anything)
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Thanks. As this only leaves a working notification LED and “automatically stop charging at 80 %” as “nice to have” features, I’m not going through the trouble of rooting right now. And it remains a mystery if just the driver is missing or there is a hardware limitation.
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