hi all, this is only partially on topic, but my brand new FP5 does not even charge with most of my cables. i have a bunch, and i have been buying higher quality 100W cables by baseus, and i have a quick charger for my 2 year old xiaomi, with its factory cable (33W fast charge) and NONE of them charge my FP5 AT ALL. i wonder how this is even possible. the charger makes no difference tho, but most of my cables refuse to charge the phone. all of them work with literally any phone BUT the FP5. here i though i’m getting rid of e-waste, and sadly, I now have to buy a bunch of new cables just to charge my fairphone… and who knows if the ones i buy will even work
not to mention my battery health dropped from 100 to 92 in just 2 hours of usage. i wonder how long it will last, but that’s another topic again
I understand that your chargers don’t charge your phone, but some cables do work. What are these cables connected to when they charge the phone?
I have had my phone connected to a bunch of chargers, computers and docking stations to charge it and it worked with all of them. So it might still be that you are unlucky and got a faulty device but at least this doesn’t seem to be a common thing. You could either try to take the phone apart so you can take the USB port out and put it back in, or you contact support about this - but be warned, their reply times are not exactly overwhelming.
Right, that’s a different story: My battery health was back at 100 after the last update, so I wouldn’t bother too much about the display, your battery definitely didn’t age that much in such a short period of time.
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sorry, i was not clear. the chargers all work, and all of them charge the phone correctly with some of the cables. the more expensive cables do not work. the cheap ones, and cables for my usb sound card etc work fine. if the cable charges, it will charge with everything, pc, power bank and such. i’m not familiar with how the quick charge electronics work, but this might be an issue with the charge electronics in the cables themselves.
anyway, i’m happy to hear it’s not a common issue. i might contact support with this. thanks for your answer.
Your story is strange. My FP5 just like my FP3 before charges with whatever cable I’ve tried to use. I prefer to use my 65W laptop charger, but I have an Anker cable as well, the original Fairphone one that I bought with my FP3, and a whole bunch of others. Nothing really posh though.
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The best that I’ve seen is 3 hours, even with a 65W USB-C charger.
Has anyone been able to replicate anything even remotely close to “50% in 20 minutes”?
Yes, actually. I just bought a 65 watt charger a couple weeks ago. I never measured HOW fast it actually charges, but I can confirm, it does charge amazingly fast. I’ve never used anything faster than a 5 or maybe 10 watt charger before, so this is pretty cool to experience. It does get pretty dang toasty, though. I’ll time it tonight just for you
I woke up this morning with my phone showing the low battery warning, slightly below 15%. I plugged it in around 7am.
Then a few minutes later I remembered this thread and started checking the battery frequently. 50% at 7.20 and 80% at 7.37 when I unplugged it.
Original Fairphone charger and cable
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Its not only the charger, also the cable is important to allow fast charging
Similar story to the others’ here (talking about a different question)
As already pointed out by ymuell, the cable quality is just as important as the charger itself.
I tried a different charger and cable today: my Lenovo laptop’s 65W charger.
With 20% battery, the Fairphone 5 indicated it was “charging rapidly, 1h50m left until full”. I checked a few times during the following two hours and it effectively took that long to charge.
Over the last couple of weeks, I have tried several different chargers (an Apple 61W charger, an Anker 65W charger, and an external power bank) connected to several different cables (an Apple USB-C cable, the Fairphone USB-C cable and some other USB-C cables). The usual charging time for the FP5 is three hours. I can charge other phones or tablets with these cables quite fast.
What confuses me the most is that the FP5 actually indicates “charging rapidly”, even when it indicates that it will take three hours.
Here’s a screenshot of the estimation today:
EDIT: Apple charger was 61W, not 65W.
You might try out the AccuBattery app. It gives you some more statistical details while charging.
Might this be an OS thing as well? You are using a Fairphone 5? And which OS?
The battery settings page looks different for me on latest Fairphone OS, offering more options
With the Lenovo laptop charger (and its non-replaceable cable), AccuBattery reports a charge speed of 2016mA average with screen off. It indicates that charging completely will take 1h49m. This charger reads:
Output: 20.0⎓V 3.25A 65W / 15V⎓3A / 9V⎓2A / 5V⎓2A 10W
With an Apple 87W charger (with an Apple cable), AccuBattery reports a charging speed of 2020mA with screen off. This charger reads:
Output: 20.2V⎓4.3A (USB PD) or 9V⎓3A (USB PD) or 5.2V⎓2.4A
With a RAVPower PD 65W charger (with the FP cable), AccuBattery reports a charging speed of 2018mA with screen off. This charger reads:
Output: 5V⎓3A, 9V⎓3A, 12V⎓3A, 15V⎓3A, 20V⎓3.25A, 65W Max
Apparently, charging speed is capped at 2020mA, regardless of charger and cable that I use.
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It’s a FairPhone5 from Murena. AFAIK, the main difference is that Murena’s ship without Google tracking spyware and all other software that somehow depends on that being installed. I don’t think they’ve tinkered anything battery related.
Murena ships their phones with /e/OS which is based on LineageOS, certainly differs from what Fairphone ships their phones with themselves. If that makes any difference concerning charging I don’t know.
I have just charged my phone but I can check the max. A later today or tomorrow with AccuBattery
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Thought I’d give this app a shot, because it made me curious. I seem to be able to charge upwards of 4500mA.
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I got similar numbers to the ones from @Nabalazs,
average Screen Off charge speed of 4420mA.
As Lineage/ /e/OS is quite different from our Fairphone OS, I would suggest you to first validate with another /e/OS user if it is an OS issue. Or otherwise, if they charge faster, a possible hardware issue (all your chargers, unlikely, or the phone itself)
Edit: @Nabalazs are you on Fairphone OS? Just realized I assumed it but you didn’t state it here
Yes I am! Everything is as stock as Fairphone sells it in europe.