Can not record any call

on FP6.QREL.15.91.0, after a fresh install, I have no button to record a call (and I have the same issue on e/os 3.0.2 but less systematically)

Hi and welcome to the community forum :slight_smile:

Call recording is not available universally. For more info, see here:

In particular:

To record your phone calls:
  • Your device must run Android 9 and up.
  • You must have the latest version of the Phone app.
  • You must be in a country or region where call recording is supported. Call recording is widely available, but not in all countries or regions. Features vary based on your country or region.

You may need to contact your network operator.

In which country did you perform the previous install?

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Alors ? On the road again ? :wink: Thanks for the welcome !

Yes sure … even if the country notion is fuzzy to me. Is it the country you’re physically in, the one you’re calling, the one your SIM is native?.. I do not think a phone behave differently depending on its location, it may behave differently regarding your carrier rather.

Installation was made in France with a french SIM.

What I should have precised is that I opened a gitlab issue on /e/OS for the same problem. The difference is I got the call record capability somehow (I can’t reproduce it now :roll_eyes:). As I got it once, I suppose this should be the normal behavior to have it…

I agree, it’s probably either the country of SIM issuer, or country you’re in at the moment, possibly a combination of both.

I don’t remember ever having seen a call record button in my stock Phone app.

Other methods are available, just search for “android record phone call” or whatever, but be aware of the local laws.

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Just as a reference, as call recording comes up from time to time with users sometimes unaware this could be illegal depending on the country …

Here’s a LineageOS 21.0 XML file which has all the relevant legal references per country for the decision to enable or disable call recording in the LineageOS 21.0 dialer … android_packages_apps_Dialer/java/com/android/dialer/callrecord/res/xml/call_record_states.xml at lineage-21.0 · LineageOS/android_packages_apps_Dialer · GitHub

Might be informative.

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@OldRoutard, I know other methods like rooting and the like and probably other dialers that could do the trick. But, as I said, this seems to be a “standard” feature at least in /e/OS under unclear circumstances, so I’m interested in the standard being applied. If it’s not possible, I will consider tricky ways but every non standard way has to be done forever on each OTA. See what I mean…

Thank you for your participation @AnotherElk. Lineage has validated call record for/from/? France, whatever that mean:

country iso=“fr,bl,gf,gp,mf,mq,nc,pf,pm,re,wf,yt” allowed=“true”

No, there are apps you can use which shouldn’t disappear every time you update your OS.

Interesting, I wonder why (consensual) call-recording could be illegal in any country. Kinda weird, isn’t it?

being the difficulty.
The recording tools often record calls by default from the start and there’s no way the other caller can know that the call is being recorded.

Okay, that makes sense. So disabling “autorecord” for certain countries would probably a better solution I guess.

I tried to start a thread along these lines but Incanus decided that it was illegal (it’s not where I am) and yvmuell told me to use the search function (is that the new form of RTFM?) and closed my thread. My question is simple: Can call recording be done on the Fairphone 6?

My search just came up with a load of amateur lawyers stating legal inaccuracies and a long list of problems trying to do it which suggested I would have to immediately root my new phone if I buy one. This thread seems the most similar link to what I want even though it’s FP5. Fairphone was top of my list, it’s now 3rd :frowning: But I would still love an answer cos if it’s a ‘Yes’ it’ll go back to number 1. Can anyone see past the legalities and answer the question? Can it be done without rooting the O/S or not?

Thats what I wrote

and now you ask for the FP6 in a FP5 topic..

Well it seems I need to take my time to check for the FP6 topic to move your post.

@NeilB, in A15, it requires Magisk, which means that it requires superuser access.

Still not an answer to the question :frowning: I understood from the website that FP6 was the latest version which is what I would buy. I put it in a FP5 subject because that’s the nearest I could find to my thread which was closed. Thanks to rokejulianlockhart I now have my answer: NO. Fairphone does not allow call recording in their interpretation of the law (which doesn’t match mine).

Thanks rokejulianlockhart, a straightforward answer.:slightly_smiling_face:

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@NeilB, thanks. I forgot to mention, however, that if you decide to utilise a third-party OS, these rules do not necessarily apply; many advertise explicit support for this. Though, be aware of the disadvantages of such OSes.

It’s more likely to be Google’s. FP would need to preinstall another default telephony client, rather than Google Dialer, to bypass this.

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My apologies to Fairphone, you’re right I think Google is the one making unilateral wrong decisions. I suppose that when they discover that the camera can take illegal pictures of people they will switch that off too. :rofl:

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