Android 13 on the Fairphone 3(+)

[igor-cali]

I know, thanks. I can’t tell by myself if this update is pending only on my NW provider or on any other here. So I omitted that part.

[patzi]

@Kariburger

Hi,
I’m currently using LineageOS 20. But I want to leave LineageOS 20.0 in favour of your stock ROM, as it suffers massive permission problems (see comparable problems with LineageOS 19 - FP3-LOS 19.1: System instable after leaving standby - potential problem due to permission problems of system apps like Systemui, Appop (#5317) · Issues · LineageOS / issues / android · GitLab ), so that SystemUI and some apps like “Magic Earth” are freezing very often (I don’t know whether these permission warnings are causing the freeze - but I find those warnings when I analyse the logs of such a freezing situation).

It seems I have this problem after updating to stock android 13.

• Some apps are freezing with a warning notification.

  • i.e. OrganicMaps (i think it is a fork of MagicEarth), GadgetBridge, when I open the list of apps for notification settings

• Blank screen after waking up from standby, have to wait ~half a minute until the screen becomes responsible

Have to figure out if its the same problems described as in the LOS issue. But from the behavior it seems like it is the case.

Does anyone have these problems as well since the upgrade?

[Alain_Guillet]

Do you have automatic screen rotation activated ? If so, could you deactivate it ?

[Dryhte]

For me, the upgrade to A13 seems to be totally uneventful. I’m not a fan of some of Android’s design choices, but I’ll live with them. And of course, I’m happy that my Fairphone is again on a ‘current’ Android version.
There is one thing I find annoying though: I see a sort of ‘sunburst’ fade-in animation when I unlock my phone from dark screen. If there were a way to disable this without disabling other animations, I’d be grateful for pointers re. how to do this…

[brekerr]

since the update to 13 my phone keeps freezing, requiring me to remove the battery to restart it. Is this happening to anyone else? any suggestions?

[AnotherElk]

@brekerr

any suggestions?

@AnotherElk

In-place upgrades to a new major OS version (as opposed to cleanly installing the new version from scratch) can cause weird behaviour of all sorts. This has nothing to do with any particular OS or device, it can happen with all of them, software in general became just hopelessly complex.
Vendors can’t test every state an installation might be in, and they are not bold enough to leave cleanly installing from scratch as the only upgrade option, because obviously many users wouldn’t like that. So they do what they can with testing and roll out in-place upgrades keeping their fingers crossed.

Since Fairphone stopped the Android 13 rollout for the time being because of the fingerprint sensor situation, i don’t know how quick they will be to release an install file for manual install (it’s not there yet currently), but you could contact support … https://support.fairphone.com/hc/en-us

@brekerr

requiring me to remove the battery to restart it

Keeping the power button pressed for about 15 seconds should force a reboot.

[anon9989719]

@AnotherElk

Since Fairphone stopped the Android 13 rollout for the time being because of the fingerprint sensor situation,

Have they. I didn’t see any mention of that? That’s the A.016.0 version

I’m using the Beta A.019.0 version on one phone, so it seems the roll out is ongoing but with the downgraded ability with the fingerprint sensor

[AnotherElk]

@anon9989719

Have they. I didn’t see any mention of that?

@Marta_Artigas

We have stopped the roll-out (at 10%) of the update, for now, to make sure the information for the end users is well-written and clear enough.

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@anon9989719

I’m using the Beta

Beta testing is independent of the official rollout, I would think.

[anon9989719]

AH! I had read the topic too quickly, as is often my bad

@Marta_Artigas

We have stopped the roll-out (at 10%) of the update, for now, to make sure the information for the end users is well-written and clear enough.

@hayao @igor-cali

[Alain_Guillet]

If you have auto-rotate activated could you deactivate it ? It worked for some.

[patzi]

@Alain_Guillet

Do you have automatic screen rotation activated ? If so, could you deactivate it ?

Also with auto rotate I can easily reproduce freezing gadgetbridge when opening the list of apps for notification filtering

gadgetbridge -> notification settings -> app list

wait a few seconds and app freezes. And it keeps freezing until I stop it. going back out of the app list doesn’t help.

[paolo-caroni]

@patzi This is strange, I use gadgetbridge and LineageOS 20 (android 13) without any freeze or problems. I’m sorry but I’ve never used the fairphone version of android, one of the reason I have bought my fp3 because have a good custom ROM support.

[patzi]

@brekerr

since the update to 13 my phone keeps freezing, requiring me to remove the battery to restart it. Is this happening to anyone else? any suggestions?

besides app freezes (see above) I had these as well.

@Alain_Guillet

If you have auto-rotate activated could you deactivate it ? It worked for some.

After disabling auto-rotate I no longer have my phone going dark. App freezes still happen but I did not have to restart the phone. Only thing I am missing auto-rotate right now .

[Mic57]

Hi,

Yes my phone freezes once or twice a day since I updated to A13.
It’s the first time I have such an annoying bug after an update

I had to put back some settings manually ( ring tones, mobile data abroad,…) That was not a problem

It also needs a certain time after reboot until I can enter my pin code…

[Casshio]

Who the hell designed this.
I just updated my phone and it’s so bad.

Why is everything so big like the toolbar icons or the font within the options (which I can’t resize as it changes the size of everything else making everything tiny…)
Why does everything take up so much space/straight up block out the screen. Why are the color schemes I can choose from all pastel, why isn’t there even a simple white. Why does my wallpaper shift randomly no matter how I set it. Why the hell is the clock placement on the lockscreen so off.

This looks and feels unbelievable terrible.
And I can’t customize it in any way that comes close to how it previously was. Feels like someone is forcing their odd taste one me. Nice.

I don’t know how to go back.
But I am gonna try. Jesus Christ.

[anon9989719]

This has been discussed at length if you search [Material You]

have a look at this topic

FP3+: Issues with Android 13 update

For my 2 cents: For me, this update went much better than I expected. No major hassles so far, in particular no connectivity probs, no extreme batt use, and no perf probs I may confirm, and even my tasker stuff seems to be happy with no mentionable efforts (except a bunch of std adjustments, of course). At the end of the day, most problems I see in getting accustomed to Google’s design changes, and the immediately nasty things seem to be limited to the widgets I use to show my BT connection…

[anon9989719]

@Casshio

Who the hell designed this.

Ask Google, they designed and employ the GUi artist

[Casshio]

Is that so? Really looks like the new Fairphone asthetic tho. Especially the pastel color schemes.

[anon9989719]

Nope. It’s a Google ‘Update’
https://www.howtogeek.com/734388/androids-material-you-theming-is-great-but-dont-expect-samsung-to-use-it/

https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/qgh8r6/material_you_widgets_are_inconsistent_and_ugly/

https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/ri59oa/thanks_i_hate_it_material_you_monet_made_my_phone/

[AnotherElk]

@Casshio

Is that so?

Yes, Google introduced this in the Android 12 base for all Android OSes, it came to custom ROMs with Android 12, too.
I’m using /e/OS and got this with Android 12 a while ago. Fairphone skipped Android 12 on the Fairphone 3/3+, so Fairphone OS users are getting it now after the upgrade from Android 11 to 13.

Android 12 preview: first look at Google’s radical new design