Strongly different numbers in Fairphone’s own graph here, mainly in the beginning days of pre-ordering. I assume their numbers reflect the point of time of orders, not payments (which I think the counter does and which my tracking is showing – thus the weekend plateaus).
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I think they just interpolated between the weekly observation points.
BTW. I’d like to know if the Fairphone Team itself believes in reaching the crowdfunding goal… 
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With the information we have available, it is hardly sane to believe in it.
However we might not have all the information. Maybe the Fairphone team knows more (e.g. they are planning an extraordinary campaign or have a sales partner in sight who will buy a big chunk of the phones). Then they have reason to be optimistic.
I’m just glad they will still build the phones in any case.
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I think the Pop-Up-Store in London will lead to some extra sales.
It also seem like many people are waiting for more info on the OS/software part of FP2!
And more blog post would probably help. I ordered mine long ago (or it feels like it anyway), and I wish they could give more info on what they’re up to (a weekly basis would be great).
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@Stefan: Will there be again a pop-up-store in London? When?
I am also pretty optimistic, that we will reach 15.000 before end of Sept.
My bet would be Sep. 25th. Who is in?
I woul like this also and finally asked the support about this topic; the answer was:
Support (@Sietse):
“Making a “micro-blog” of what keeps us busy on a daily/weekly basis is
sadly enough not possible. Our communications team does not have the
capacity to do so. There is so much other work to do that these small
updates are not possible.[…] sometims on Twitter and Facebook”
Sadly, but I guess true…
Anyhow, a short twitter-like newsticker with some main points of the week would be not that work, wouldn’t it?
And secondly I asked support about filling the Newsletter with more really “News” and not just pointing to already published Blog posts; the answer was:
“… we do indeed mention things we have posted on the website recently. This
is because most of our followers do not really check the website. After
the newsletter we see a huge increase on traffic on the blogposts that
were mentioned, people we else would miss.”
So OK, this holds maybe not for the huge forum community I guess, but only FP knows the real page counters…
Cheers, Robert
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That’s true. But you know these videos, right?
Live Fairphone 2 
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Where have you taken the graph from? What’s the URL?
Well, it’s obvious that in their marketing they’re going to have to be relentlessly optimistic. Would be kind of counterproductive if they said “naaaah, we’re probably not gonna make it” 
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If you mean the one I posted most recently, it’s from Fairphone’s Facebook page.
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12500 to 13000 by end of play on Sept 30th is my best guess. To reach 15000 will need an average of 220 sales a day which has not been achieved since the first week after launch.
There will probably be a last week surge when people pay as late as possible. After all, paying early is gving FP an interest free loan from which the consumer gets no more than a warm feeling - which is just fine by me; I’d rather loan money to FP than subsidise the Porsche funds of a wunch of bankers.
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So the numbers seems to pick up, but maybe still not enough. Anyone with a nice graph for it? I still haven’t lost hope even though it seems more and more unlikely it will reach 15 000
Daily sales updates have been uneven but it looks OK again today (there appeared to be only around 50 a day over the weekend then 350 or so in the last 2 days) Dutch banking holiday??
They’d have to sell 250 a day from now to reach 15000 by Sept 30th, but still heading for 13000 on current sales.
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It is important to note that nothing catastrophic will happen if the goal of 15000 phones is not reached until the end of September. It’s not a Kickstarter-Style crowd-funding.
Yes, the money is needed to bootstrap production, but the FP2 will be produced and sold anyway.
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As they told they’ll going to adapt the production numbers for regular production. Also a big sale off in the last week by People who are going to order to save the Money until the last possible time and/or the big Network Provider may be able to Archive the Goal.
Yes.
Also I hope pictures of the alternative translucent case will appear soon in the shop, and on Facebook. It should attract some people.
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What is it stockbrokers always say? “Previous performace is not a guarantee of future gains”.
My predictions are purely based on the cumulative actual sales and the past week’s average sales.
I’m also hoping for a last minute surge … as I want FP to be saved from loaning any money, which will eat into their income and increase that of bankers … but it’s suprising how steady the rate of orders has been since the start of August, with a slight up-turn since the coloured case was announced!
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I’m wondering what the exact problem is if they do not reach the 15000 pre-order target. Is it that total sales volumes (so also after the pre-order phase) will also be projected to be lower (and costs become higher), or is it just that the starting capital raised is not sufficient? In the case of the latter, shortfall can potentially be made up by large investors / banks, but it could be possible to crowd-source a loan. Probably that won’t happen in this case due to time constraints and the myriad of rules and regulations that vary for each country that the Fairphone has an audience, but there are some successful (and unsuccessful) examples out there.
In short: it’s not necessarily bankers that would benefit.
I believe that’s it.
True, that would be a possibility, but I think Fairphone will go with a bank loan, because they always said they want to stay financially independent, even from private donations and even if that means that bankers might benefit.