Which Fairphone do you want to buy, the FP3 or the FP4?
Clearly some of the software will be screwed as they use the ‘selfie’ camera and you will risk apps that offer options being stunted and not responding as they are designed. You don’t need to remove a camera to know that.
Cameras may not work.
What’s the big deal about removing a camera when it’s easier to disable in physically.
Tried it, at least CalyxOS boots fine on a FP4 without the front cam, I’m writing from it right now.
Camera app works as well, not sure about the stock FPcamera app though, haven’t got that one installed…
In all the apps with camera access I tested, the only difference was the missing icon to change to the front camera
Personally if I was privacy-oriented enough, I’d be much more interested in whether you can disable the microphone in some way on a hardware level. Cameras are easily disabled with low-tech solutions like pieces of tape while mics aren’t and they have at least as much or even more spying potential.
I don’t think that behaviour is specific to Calyx, that just happens to be what’s installed on my FP4 and I can’t test the FP4 with stock FPOS a family member has right now.
At the end of the day Android is just a Linux system with some weird bits sprinkled in for “fun” and I wouldn’t expect my PC to stop working when I unplug the webcam. Since a phone / tablet can have any number of cameras from 0 to ∞ apps should generally be prepared for that…
…except maybe for the FPcamera app made specifically by Fairphone for the Fairphone
Normally I would have gone with LineageOS but official Lineage just became available yesterday (and I didn’t have time to build it myself before), I don’t like the proprietary apps shipped with iodé, /e/ is meant for a different type of user and I’m still not sure what to make of LeOS
That left Calyx, which has a firewall and microG included and lets me remove everything I don’t need.
If you are absolutely hardcore about security you’ll probably have to take a look at GrapheneOS, but the main dev has already said there won’t be a build for the FP4.
And I am personally not going to go anywhere near that community, there are nicer places out there (like this forum)…
FP2s I tested always reacted well under all OSes when removing any modules (even powering it without the display is possible, using it with adb). If you have no cameras at all, some apps will crash, some others will say there is a problem with the camera, apart from this it works fine. I see no reason why this should be different on the FP4 (and it seems it’s not).
Thanks guys, it seems software dependent then, which is how it should be.
I’ve never ventured out of the iOS ecosystem for a portable device (what we call iDevices) and so it is all new to me. However, GrapheneOS (like the name change!) seems like it’s doing well with a Snowden recommendation, and who cares about the community, they just have a high entry threshold, I can take the abuse.
@rieska : You’re right about the microphone matter, but I cannot do much as all three are soldered onto the motherboard, so it will be something I will recommend to the devs for their 5th release (which looking at the release schedule seems to be annually now).
@Alex.A : Interesting that you tested it with different hardware missing, why was that, just for fun ? If it’s workable on a second generation release, then the fourth should be fine.