Which 2TB Micro SD card FP5

What is lost? The data is still on your PC I guess.

It’s not sure whether that will work at all, as @urs_lesse already pointed out.

Yes, the music is still on PC. I’m moving in with my partner and I’m putting my computer in storage. I wanted to have lots of music available on my phone for this but it looks like that’s not going to happen now :frowning:

Buy a genuine µSD card and you can have ‘lots of music’.

You can get around this by drive partitioning and/or changing from MBR (Master Boot Record) to GPT (GUID Partition Table) witch makes it basically Limitless in file size. SD cards by default is MBR, this can easily be changed with a program to run it in GPT. So you can still technically have 4TB without breaking anything. I’ll include a few videos and a screenshot of how simple it is. Fun fact: i did this for my 3DS console were the limit is 32gb but technically by partitioning any drive as FAT32 you can put up to 2TB with no problems. There was a special case since 3DS has a hardware limit of 300 games per console. So going any bigger would be a waste.


So it’s indeed still possible to have a drive bigger than 2TB

Did you by chance get a sandisk card or a knock off?

The SD Card must be formatted as ExFAT with default allocation size.

Sometimes marking it as external storage helps here.

If you need a separate computer try windows disk manager to create a simple volume.

If you have Linux. GParted is a good tool to format it there.

Try these steps and you shouldn’t have any problems

No, not with (µ)SD. There the limit is 2TB for SDHC as @urs_lesse said. Bigger cards follow a different standard SDUC which is not compatible and not supported by all devices.

We can agree to disagree. If it comes out in first or second quarter this year. I’ll buy it on soon as it releases. All SD cards have the first row of pins even with express. If I can get it to work I’ll come back here and post my results. I have a good reason that will most likely will work. With both my Wii and 3DS having bigger than recommended cards installed. Along with my Raspberry pi 3/4/5 models all formatted as FAT32 and has 1.5TB in all of them. I’m speaking from experience here. If my devices mentioned here have have 2GB(Wii, Wii U), 32GB (Everything Else mentioned) do have workarounds. I’m sure it would be the same here.




Here is some evidence to my argument. I do respect your opinion. We can discuss this when the card releases and I get my hands on one. Until then this is all my opinion based on prior experience on the matter. If sandisk themselves are making all cards backwards compatible on the first interface then more than likely there is indeed a workaround to this new card that i plan on getting for the fairphone itself.

You can’t speak from experience with hardware not even released yet.

We are talking about a technology change, SDXC to SDUC, not just a bigger SDXC card.

So your saying the original/HC for the wii, sdhc, SDXC for the for mentioned devices. Your argument is that this doesn’t count. They all allowed for upgrades. Who’s to say that this wouldn’t be the same here. With EXFAT supported for the 4 and 5. This file system can go higher than 2TB on its own. All I’m saying it wouldn’t be the first time I’ve heard that exact story. that the devices only can support 2gb/32gb max. Yet i can stick up to a 32gb in the wii and 2tb for the 3DS using FAT32. This wouldn’t be the the first time, more than likely the not the last. If history can’t explain things I don’t know what will. I know its all an opinion and speculation. It was just announced a few days ago. Who knows I’m just a geek who loves tech and learning things through trial and error. That’s probably why I like progress bars and loading screens of all things. Trying something new shouldn’t be an issue here. I was fully willing to buy one and test it. Maybe not sharing what I learned and having you test it would be a better experience don’t you think? I still like to help where I can even if you don’t think so.

Sorry, but I don’t get exactly, what you are trying to tell me.

As written here, the specs of the FP3 were saying, that a max SD size of 400GB is usable. That was most probably, because at that time no bigger cards where available or tested. But as cards with 1 or even 2TB were released, they just worked, because they were still SDXC cards.

But now we are talking about different card types and according to the specs of the current FP5, SDUC is not supported, only SD3.0 means SDXC.

Don’t get me wrong, I would be glad if the FP5 supports SDUC cards, but I‘m afraid it isn’t.

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The wii only supports the original cards (SD), the 3ds, & Raspberry pi (3,4,5) only supports up to 32gb SDHC, but as mentioned you can go bigger than this with SDXC up to 2TB in those devices thanks to a file system FAT32 which was around during the win 95 era. This is a workaround from normal because these don’t support ExFAT cards. Yet when using an application (ie. Minitool Partition Wizard) that allows any card up to 2TB tho be formatted as such. What part of that don’t you get? Im simply saying Exfat file system can go over this limit by a long ways thus this shouldn’t be an issue if formatted properly. I think you need a lesson in file systems to get this point. If the Fairphone is default ExFAT. Then it shouldn’t have an issue dealing with larger cards. This video timestamp of 1:11 would explain it better than I ever could in text.

I think you need a lesson in politeness and netiquette.

Again, it’s not about file systems, but hardware limits.

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Look I was polite, but repeating myself does get annoying after a while. believe what you wish to believe about it. If i happen to find anything interesting when it comes out I’ll sure give you a message. I would love to prove you wrong in this. I apologize if i was a little rude. I just didn’t like repeating things over and over. At least give me that. Please and thank you. Good day to you sir. And enjoy your weekend. I do appreciate helping out & likely you do also. This is why I try to follow the golden rule. Its hard at times though. I do appreciate the feedback in the end.

a lil off topic.

Could you help me understand the reasoning behind getting the largest available card as soon as it’s released?

I purchased a FP with the intention of minimizing e-waste, but changing SD cards every few months seems to have the opposite effect.

A 2TB card offers ample space for everyday (normal quality up to 4K) content like music and videos. I’m not sure I understand the need for storing 8K videos when none of my other devices support that resolution. Honestly, no matter what videos are recorded, it’s unlikely anyone will be watching them 10 years from now.

Additionally, SD cards are not ideal for backups, as they are more prone to errors and tend to be more expensive compared to other technologies like SSDs.

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With all the wildfires and other natural disasters. The reason is simply if anything were to happen the data is there on the device to recover from. Its better than paying for a cloud subscription. Plus I’m aware of errors. No matter how hard one tries like with 2 raids, one NAS, and most data of important on 3 phones. One can be never be too prepared. 3-2-1 rule. 3 copies of your data, on 2 mediums, one off site. If one can understand my reasoning on this matter it’s mainly for backup purposes. Since we take our phones on the go on a daily basis its more than enough reason to store any backups there. I was just trying to explain that more than likely SDUC will be compatible as I’ve had prior experience with older tech supporting newer cards. What’s wrong with being honest with something. It’s just been announced a few days ago as mentioned. And its just speculation for right now.

I do appreciate a fresh perspective on the matter. Plus I don’t like making e-Wate either. I mostly repurpose my older cards for older tech. As most cards don’t last forever. I had a few cards kick the bucket already. Replacing them with partitioned media with 20% unlocated blocks free like an SSD lasts a lot longer in most cases. All from experience.

Its all just an opinion based on prior experience. Thank you ahead of time. Hope you have a nice day.

Thank you for the clear explanation, it’s much easier to understand now. :pray:
One thing to note regarding the “I carry all my data with me” approach is the importance of encryption. If your phone is lost or stolen, it’s important to remember that typically only the internal storage is encrypted, while SD cards are often not. This could potentially expose your data. :wink:

Take care,
Karl

The other glitch is, that this backup is constantly in use. So malware, errors while handling, an app running wild and so on can harm your data.
A backup should always be stored without something having access to it all the time.

Just a fact. You can encrypt any backup files by using 7-ZIP app while archiving. The ones I keep on my phone is media files. Because music, movies, TV don’t need to be encrypted one bit. But archiving anything other than this will need to do so prior to putting on the card. The phone will not be able to read them anyway. So its a win-win situation.

@Incanus As of errors. Most drives have error correction nowadays. If this fails there is always repair apps out there than can repair any damaged files. So I’m not worried about it. I know its not the perfect solution to the problem. At least its an option.

Edit: plus I do agree with you on Having one elsewhere. One off site is always a good option. Like a relative house as an example. They do need to be checked for errors for being unplugged every few years or so.