Hi @austrogrammar and welcome to the forum. Have you happened to stumble upon the Austrian Fairphoners? We are organizing events regularly, where we talk about our Fairphones and help each other with problems. The next event we will be at (with a proper Fairphone booth btw) is the Südwind Straßenfest. Would be great to see you there, Clemens!
Finally you have posted here, @evidement! Welcome at last!
Salut @Akkronic et bienvenue à le Fairphone Forum! Sorry, if this wasn’t correct French…
my name is Massimo and I am physicist, working in metrology research institute. I started fixing things by myself about one year ago (if fixing Lego constructions counts, or the bathroom’s faucets, then I have more experience to quote 8-), and I soon became the family reference to replace hard drives, mobile phone screens, LCDs, and batteries. Much of this is thanks to the free guides on iFixit and Instructables.com.
To the point: I don’t own a FairPhone yet. I have owned a Motorola Moto G since 2014 and, by principle, I would not replace my mobile phone unless it turns at least two years old. I was considering getting a new phone and an LG G4 would be my hardware/price target, now that the price is below 300€, in Italy. But then I stumble into this FairPhone 2. The phone looks nice, and the possibility to easily replace parts -with the endorsement of iFixit- is very appealing. But I am having difficulties justifying the extra (relative to the G4) 200€-ish. I am not trying to be provocative here, I am only trying to understand the value of these extra 200€, relatively to what I am willing to spend. Will the FairPhone last me much longer?
Not least, I would be of course happier to contribute to a project born in the EU.
Yours,
Massimo
Rome-Italy
If you just compare money-wise and don’t want to drink the fair kool aid, other phones will work as well. Especially if you focus on software availability (Nexus, for example). But if you see it as a “story-telling-device” (whatever it is, but you get the idea, I guess), like the modular approach (battery, camera, usb-connector/mic are replaceable), and also keep in mind they are going to share the current code really, really soon … it could be a pretty cool phone with just a few minor issues that could last really long. But if you are a power user and you really need raw CPU power and the lastest Exmor camera improvements from Sony & Co (Sony IMX318), keep in mind that it’s based on an older Snapdragon.
My suggestion: Read the cost breakdown carefully, read the forum and ask your questions!
Thank you @fp1_wo_sw_updates , and thanks also to @danielsjohan for the link provided. I did visit the price breakdown page, and it is clear how the many aspects of making a final product were given proper credit.
One does think, a this point, and I certainly do so, what portions of this price breakdown are not being credited for when one purchases a Korean, or a Chinese phone, over the web.
I will “study” more and then move on to questions!
Cheers
Massimo
Generally the price of the phone is also higher than other phones because of the relatively small quantities Fairphone produces (140.000 per year is nothing compared to iPhones and Samsung).
Hi, I’m a freelance sustainability consultant based in Devon, UK, and decided to put my money where my mouth is. Both my and my husband’s phones just reached the ends of their lives, and we’ve chosen differently for our next phones. The race is on to see how they compare performance and longevity-wise…
Hi, I’m Simon
I’ve had my fairphone2 for about 8 weeks, I’m not really a techie in anyway so you’ll have to be patient with me while I get used to how all this sort of thing works.
Hi, I am Manuel and like a lot of other people in this forum here I decided to spend my money on a great project leading to sustainable technology. Got my Fairphone 2 a few days ago and it has some bugs, but as I see in the forum I am not the only one and I hope they will be fixed soon. I also try to get it running without google, great that you give some good advice in this forum for it.
Hi! I am a Social Science researcher based in Cardiff, UK. I switched from iPhone to FP2 this year after over 3 years of the iPhone but got fed up of having to pay lots to replace the screen which seemed to break so very easily.
Am having some teething issues with the FP2, but am hoping the supportive community may be able to help me get prolonged use out of it!
HI @Manel, @Monkeycymru and welcome to the forum! Sometimes one still needs assistance from Google because the Discourse forum search is quite improvable. If you are having troubles finding something, you can use Google’s on site search:
Hello to everyone!
I would like to buy a second hand FairPhone V1.
I am owning an “old” Samsung Galaxy Y duos GT-S6102, my first smartphone, and, trying to get rid of the GAFAM software in it, installing APK from F-Droid, I realised that ic capacities where pretty much out of date, and that nowdays, most of the APK are designed for android 4.x at least.
I am concerned about durabilty, low impact products and information technologies.
I’m kind of an eco-warrior, using my bike as much as possible, and a gardiner, too !
My name is Jonathan. I have been a advocate for Fair Trade for several years now. I was on a path to design toys for a living until I saw how workers were treated in factories. My whole world imploded. Suddenly they weren’t heroes and villains with personality but bits of plastic that some unfortunate person had to put together.
I’ve worked hard to choose fair trade and used when I can. My Cintiq is used, my closet of cloths is becoming more and more fair trade. I volunteered at the headquarters of a fair trade organization.
And I can’t stop thinking about where things come from, who made them, what were the working conditions, was the pay fair, etc. etc. It was driving me mad when I’d pick up my phone. Every time I looked at it I thought “If you REALLY cared you’d put your money where your heart is and buy a Fairphone.”
So now I’ve ordered mine. SO looking forward to it.