No, “rild” does not mean “build”. A “build” does not crash, it fails. (Or to be specific, a build system/process obviously can crash like every other software, but that is typically not what we speak of). What crashes is the RIL deamon called “rild” for Radio Interface Layer, as chrmhoffman wrote correctly in the xda-forum. It is a layer of software between the Radio Hardware (Radio in this case means the mobile chipset, not FM) and Android services for telephony.
Sorry my mistake. The expression “crash the build” is perfectly acceptable English though.
So what this means is that FP1 blob is so bad that the only way chrmhoffman had of getting telephony working on an FP with CyanogenMod was to use a blob from another phone?
I do not know if the blob is “bad”. Lets agree it is incompatible. That is actually not surprising given the Fairphone runs Android 4.2 and chrmhoffman was trying to get Android 4.4 to build.
I think is is some kind of miracle the port even runs!
a bit off-topic, I guess, but the news for the FPs aim to port other OSes to the FP (the lastest blogpost) has reached the Ubuntu community as well.
I just read in an article in Heise online that Fairphone Company is working on an Ubuntu-OS Portation for FP2 and has still not given up hopes on making this also available for FP1 users.
Is this correct? Who has more infos on that?
As I´m fed up with some Android features I already started looking for alternative OS-smartphones from Meizo (=Ubuntu) or Blackberry. But if something is still going on with FP1 that would be a well needed argument to stay with this.
You were moved fast. I don’t have much hope for the FP1. The FP1 based on MTK and there is no public code for that, so I assume nobody will be able to port the code. And it’s a bit too old and too slow.
Update: This answer is for the FP2 only!
For the FP2 try the links below and searching the forum! Make sure you check the “What’s working” part.
Some more details on the port can be found here (older/February time frame)
The page you linked to is about FP2. @GT-Eins, however, asked about FP1 (that’s why I moved the post here).
So I understand:
FP2 is possible
FP1 maybe - just in case of a (proposed) Android update
My bad. I tried to fix it. I hope they will be able to record his talk this time
Yes, but I wouldn’t wait for the FP1. The FP2 is a better candidate. But according to an old blog post and a talk by @keesj they have the MTK ‘base’ source code. So things are possible but no one knows. But they are very busy so not sure if they have time for things like the FP1 or Ubuntu OS.
Could you post the link to that article? Or give a quote to that particular paragraph?
Do you have a link?
I doubt that Ubuntu Touch is ever coming to FP1. This is the first time I hear anyone claim that. Of course, it would be nice, but I don’t see it happen.
English translation: Even with the first Fairphone the company hasn’t given up hope yet to provide a newer Android and alternative OSes and is still working on a solution.
I still think that there is a theoretical possibility that there can be a Ubuntu Touch port for the FP1 because we have already experienced two community ports on an Android Kitkat codebase (CM11 and Kitkat 4.4.4 by @chrmhoffmann) and I can’t imagine why a company, which could pay a developer full time for porting an OS and has obtained the software licenses to be legally able to, couldn’t come up with alternative OSes.
Yes this was the article.
I plan to talk about current alternatives and their status. Ubuntu Touch is not quite there yet and more involvement from the community is needed. The porting projects are happening in the open in the respective communities. We provide support by means of the https://code.fairphone.com website on and on the freenode irc network.
some impressions of the Linuxwochen in Vienna, where @keesj had a keynote:
and a qTalk about “Faire IT”:
As far as I remember Ubuntu is one of the OS, which is at a early implementation stage. It boots but there is still a lot of work to do. Ubuntu experts are welcome to contribute their know-how
Hello, I am not an OS specialist; just a basic smartphone user. As many of you, I have been waiting for the upgrade from Android 4.2 to Android 4.4. After having read the entire discussion about that issue, I am convinced that an upgrade to Android 4.4 won’t make the FP1(U) last much more than one or two years from now. Can anyone tell me if a complete switch to Ubuntu is possible with the FP1U and would make it a true, longlasting , sustainable device? Would I encounter the same ugrade limits in the open source universe? Can anyone please tell me how to proceed or where I could find the usermanual? Is there already a forum with this topic which I did not come through? Many thanks
Okay, this hasn’t been discussed here on the forum for a long time, thank you for bringing it up again! After having read the above discussion again, it seems that Android 4.4 is actually a prerequisite for Ubuntu Touch, and
maybe they have even moved to a higher Android version as the foundation for UT. According to the porting guide, 4.4. is still needed.
This is a good reason why Fairphone MUST make the upgrade to 4.4 possible for the FP1(U)! I remember that at the time I ordered my FP1 U in late 2013 , Android 4. 2 was mentioned by Fairphone only as the default OS installed on the FP1, suggesting that it was ideally intended to be used with an open source OS. It is a bit hard to read 3 years later that Android 4.2 is probably the only OS on which the FP1 will ever run. My wife uses an iphone 4 since 2010 - over 6 years! - whereas I should accept that my so called sustainable fairphone will be good for trash for less than that? If some hardware components cause this predictable obsolescence, why wouldn’t it be possible to replace it and give the FP1 a second life? For sure, this would not be a profitable operation, economically speaking, but this would be a fantastic sign of recognition for the early supporters who made the Fairphone dream become reality. Resentment and disappointment that rise amongst early supporters on the FP1 forum appear to me as bad signs for Fairphones’ future. It is really sad…
The iPhone 4 hasn’t seen an update since June 30th, 2014, which is 2,5 years ago. The latest stable Fairphone OS version for FP1(U) (Kola Nut / 1.8.7) was released in August 2015, which is 1,5 years ago. Besides I haven’t heard that Apple would be working on updating the iPhone 4.
To stay on topic: Likewise I haven’t heard about Ubuntu Touch running on the iPhone 4.