Maybe introduce a special tag for people to use when they upload their pictures on social media. I already saw that #shotonfairphone is something FP advocates on Instagram. But if you add #shotonfairphone4 to that then you may continuously get a feed of what kind of pictures people take with that FP model and how that looks.
By the way, could you please update the top post to this new deadline? New users then know they can still leave feedback. The deadline in the top post is still in February.
Do you mean such situations, when you say
The 48MP stills option is unable to handle light situations with sky and water and I get an exposure blow-out.
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I dont see a problem in my picture. is made in 48MP with stock cam.
Moritzw, thanks for posting. I think your camera is working very differently to mine! I attach two evening shots, with the cargo boat for time reference. One taken on the 48MP and one on the standard camera. The standard camera has the light about right. The 48MP is blown out and all the other shots taken on the coast came out like this
Cheers, tom
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Is this the same issues? If yes is your OS up to date, because it seems it should have been fixed
Have you tried indoors photos as well? Especially if people are also moving around? The camera is great as long as the environment is forgiving 
No. I got the phone yesterday. I’m just starting to try the camera out.
But generally, indoor shooting in low light is always a bit of a challenge. You can’t expect that to be perfect everytime. It also depends quite a bit on the photographer.
I have a real camera that I’ll use if I need high quality shots indoors. And even with that, you have to know what you’re doing.
For smartphones this hasn’t been a problem for almost 10 years The software defined camera features are even on mid range phones good enough to take decent pictures indoors in low light. Of course you don’t buy the Fairphone for the camera, it’s not a Pixel/iPhone. But would be great if they at least align to the level of mid range phones 
Well, you can’t round the laws of physics. For a blur-free photograph, you need a sufficient fast shutter speed. And in low light, that means a high ISO setting. And noise-free high ISO requires a certain pixel size on the sensor. Smartphones have extremely small sensors, compared to real cameras. Quantum efficiency limits how small the sensor can be but there are physical limits to that too. It helps with a faster lens but much faster than F/1.8 is hardly practical in a smartphone.
You’ll be amazed what a Pixel/iPhone can do 
The difference of what a Fairphone can shoot and my old Pixel is extreme. It was just aim and shoot with the Pixel, no fancy night mode. Then the difference would be even bigger.
Here’s an example:
https://forum.fairphone.com/t/fp4-pictures-gallery/78667/22?u=uppercase
OK, that’s not a very low light shot. I’ll try to take some similar evening shots and get back to you.
Yes the FP4 image has too much contrast etc. but that image is only half the pixel count of the Pixel 3 so I’d also expect less definition.
Sure pixel count isn’t everything and image data can be manipulated or incorrect, but I image the figures I see are ‘true’ figures
I don’t understand either why the FP was so horrible. It indeed looks like it has less pixels. But I didn’t change anything. Both phones were used the same. No special stuff done afterwards. Just aim and shoot and this was the result. I have many more pictures like it. But the focus and contrast should be improved by now. This was mentioned by people anyway. Let’s hope and see that it does
Here is an evening shot, taken a couple of minutes ago. I took the same shot with my Olympus camera and the exposure on that was 1/50s, F/1.8 and 200 ISO.
And how does it compare to the Fairphone?
Here is another example of being indoors and people are not standing like statues, you get these ghost effects. It’s worth noting that all these pics were shot a few months ago. So things might’ve improved by now. Just saying that improvement is needed and other phones (mid range as well) are able to do better. So hopefully FP will do too.
On this shot, the FP4 holds up surprisingly well. The Olympus has, as expected, better dynamic range. At even lower light, the difference will be bigger. The Olympus can do 1600 ISO with very little noise.
Hi yvmuell - interesting! I bought my phone recently so would expect it to be up to date.
I just found a system update page that says - last update was for Android security 5 Feb ‘Your system is up to date’
Is there another type of update please, if so, please let me know where I should look for it, thanks, tom
