Software Update: FP5.VT2F.C.065.20251016 📲

The issue with the “SIM is HD-Capable”-notification is still not fixed unfortunately. Otherwise there is the missing touch sensor feedback when on silent mode. Other than that, no issues so far.

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We would like to have the small vibration when touching the fingerprint sensor back. And, no, we don’t want any other haptic feedback. This vibration when performing a gesture or touching buttons is rather unpleasant.

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Thanks for the update.

After the update I don’t get haptic feedback from the fingerprint sensor. It used to give feedback even with “Touch feedback” turned off.

In the release note your write: Fixed an issue where fingerprint haptics were not functioning correctly.

Can you elaborate what was not functioning correctly? I sure hope you don’t mean that fingerprint haptic feedback should be linked to screen touch feedback.

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kindly scroll up a bit and read what was written before about this if not done yet. It indeed seems that people complained that there was haptic feedback on the sensor when vibration was turned off and I guess this is what is meant by the “fix”

and now its related to this setting. If they consider it bug or intended, needs indeed to be clarified, there has been no answer to this so far, neither in the beta group

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I did read the thread and also read that comment and hope for an explanation more than a guews. Seems like you also want an explanation.

I want to make it visible that some fairphone owners actually see this “fix” as a regression as it has never been working the way your quoted comment is referring to.

Haven’t updated yet, saw the thing about the fingerprint sensor vibration. I also have vibration disabled normally but I need the vibration feedback to know if the sensor is reading my fingerprint correctly. It worked the same way on my old phone (Android 11, Motorola), small vibrate once for unlock and twice if it was rejected (even with phone silent and touch vibration disabled). This is a standard Android behavior and if this change is intended then imho Fairphone shouldn’t be deviating from the stock behavior or if this really is a devisive issue (I can see how some people would be annoyed by the vibration) then it should be made configurable.

Also disappointed to see that none of the long-standing issues (background apps being killed, wallpaper being reset, weird reboot/settings behaviour if brightness is set below 34%) have been addressed.

Very disappointed to see “fixing” of stuff that is not broken (and breaking it in the process) and no work being done on fixing the existing issues.

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It seems that with the latest updates we have practically no options to control vibrations, even though the settings imply otherwise. For example, I would have preferred the keyboard to have the haptic feedback, as also the fingerprint sensor. Nothing more. This was my setting in an old Sony before FP5. First when moved to FP5, lost the option for the keyboard, and now for the fingerprint sensor. Somehow the coding of these settings is all confused and now it is all or nothing.

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My problem seems to be quite the opposite from this one. The latest upgrade had the note Fixed an issue where fingerprint haptics were not functioning correctly. But since then, my phone no longer vibrates on unlock.

Unlock still works, but I’m not getting any haptic feedback anymore (used to be on successful unlock as well as not recognizing my finger).

I found that enabling “Touch feedback” in the “Use vibrations & haptics” section also re-enabled unlock-vibration, but I don’t want general touch feedback, I only want it on unlock as it used to be.

Android 15, security update October 5, 2025, FP5.VT2F.C.065

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Welcome to the club!

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You’re probably the only one who found this a problem :wink: I would prefer it to be left as it was (just haptic feedback for the power button without the need to enable touch feedback in the settings). But we’ll get used to it I guess

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Exactly! These are the moments when it’s really hard to remain serious. Every day we read about the provider name in the status bar, we read about SIM 1 being HD-capable, we know that the GPS keeps updating way too fast and so on and so on. And what do we get a fix for? We get a fix for a problem that most people didn’t even know that it was a problem.
I usually try to take Fairphone’s perspective to get a better understanding of why things are as they are. But in these situations I really fail to understand that. I’m sorry.

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If someone with the tag “Fairphone Angel” next to their name is saying “I would prefer it to be left as it was” and “we’ll get used to it I guess” rather than saying “I’ll make sure to pass this feedback back to the team and try to get this resolved in the next update with a revert or a new toggle setting” then something is seriously wrong.

I get that “this is not an official support/bug report forum” etc. etc. but this feels like Fairphone are just trying to have some kind of empty “presence” on the forum to quiet the masses while the software team hides behind a faceless entity pushing buggy cr*p with no connection to the people who are actually using the product.

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Please note the following

You will be able to recognise and differentiate Fairphone Employees ( with FP logo), Angels (with Angel) and Community Moderators, from now on, I hope :slight_smile:

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