Software update: FP4.FP4D.A.163.20220826

Lol, you’re right. So I bet they only tested it with button navigation. :man_facepalming:

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and when you turn the FP the other way round, the clock is a bit cut…

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Was hoping this fixed volte for me, using ice in Norway

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These update could include more to prolong a device. There’s loads of bloatware, no option for battery care like Sony and Samsung, no option to charge other devices. I do like this phone though

What kind of ‘bloatware’ do you mean?

Do you mean the ability to limit the maximum charge.? That is not caring for the battery although it indicates a concern for the battery’s longevity.

‘Extremes’ of heat and cold can damage the capacity of a battery but limiting the maximum charge does not make much of a difference to the heat generated whilst charging and transferred heat from CPU workings etc. and ‘excessive’ sunlight may cause more.

When charging rapidly heat can be generated but this is worked into the design and at the top end the charging rate is slowed significantly to ensure safety and longevity but this is not usually the ‘hottest’ charging period.

There is the concern for battery longevity which is vaguely portrayed as ‘Good’ via the default monitor. This monitor however is a calculation based upon the maximum charge registered with an average of power used over a specific time. Hence a battery calibration is useful to know the ‘real’ capacity. However the battery status doesn’t show the remaining capacity apart form the ‘Good’

Here’s an experiment I am undertaking with a new Framework laptop running Windows 11

I can monitor the amount of cycles and the amount of wear, apparently :slight_smile:

I started by setting the maximum charge level to 78% in line with the idea that full charges damage the battery.

The results are intersesting.

I see the ‘wear’ on the battery change from day to day it is volatile.
I also have a count of the cycles used ( a cycle being the equivalent of a full charge or two 50% charges)

Once I had apps to monitor the battery I noticed that although I had restricted the charge rate to 78% the wear was much higher than I expected so I calibrated the battery.

Over the last 7 months each calibration leads to a greater capacity and hence less 'assumed ’ wear. To do this I run the battery down until an auto power off and then charge to 100%. After a few day I then set the rate to 78% again.

Here is a graph of the last few months that shows the results.

NOTE: Each time I do a calibration the wear is recored as lower

The drop at the end of August and September is where I ‘calibrated’ the battery

Back in May the ‘wear’ was 7.4%. The blue linear line was ascending then.

So battery care isn’t as simple as information passed around.

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Indeed! I can confirm the problem for gesture navigation.

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…aaand the next :brick: :roll_eyes:

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I just wanted to ask if you all have a working ring tone while using VoLTE/Wifi-calling?

Builds FP44.A.149 and FP4D.A.163 are up.

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Response from support regarding the status bar:

We are aware that since the latest software update on the FP4, in certain circumstances landscape mode can cause some icons to leave the bounds of the visible screen. We don’t have a timeline for a fix.

In the meantime, if it prevents you from using your device normally, we recommend switching from Gesture navigation to Button navigation. Admittedly, depending on your preferences, Button navigation in itself can be a bigger obstacle than the clipped icons .

I just “love” how there isn’t really a timeline for anything.

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Reverting the git commit is easy I would say. It doesn’t fix anything, so no loss there.

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Hello everyone, first post. I am a new happy Fairphone owner and the only thing that prompted me to immediately head to the forum, look up the issue, and open an account was the traffic arrows and jumping status icons with gesture nav. I understand that this is not a life-and-death issue but very distracting and the only real blemish after starting up and configuring the phone. It distracts from the experience, so a fix would be greatly appreciated. I would prefer losing the arrows completely, because they don’t tell me anything I don’t know - there is traffic.

Otherwise very happy so far, thanks.

HI and welcome to the forum.
However this is a user forum so if you want Fairphone to note your desire for a feature change, ideally you would contact them.

There are other posts about this from three years ago so Fairphone clearly have other issues they consider more important, which you can read about and I would have to agree.

And it is being looked at :slight_smile:

It’s not a feature change but clearly a bug when UI elements jump around. Anyway, obviously FP staff is reading this thread, because they posted recently. This thread has current posts and the older ones don’t, so I posted here.

I just wanted to give my feedback about the impression it makes on a new user but I’m not investing more time in this. I have more pressing software issues to take care of :slight_smile:

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It’s okay to post here, but to keep the complaints centrally it would be better to reply in threads about that subject. It will get bumped to the top once you comment, giving the topic attention again. Also, FP support does not use the forum much to prioritize issues. If you want things to get fixed, it’s best to #contactsupport.

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True but several regulars, including your good self IIRC, were talking about this issue and other status bar issues in this thread already. So I assumed it has something to do with this particular update.

I neither have the time nor inclination to dive deep into fora for every tech I use. I’d love if the things I buy for good money made it through the first five minutes of usage without obvious bugs, but as this seems impossible, I have to choose, and phones are not the things I want to waste time with. I posted the feedback, FP developers are free to take it into account or not, that’s it really. If devs cannot be bothered to fix an obvious bug that every customer sees immediately if they use gesture nav, that’s their choice.

If you don’t want to waste time, the most effective way to get things fixed, is to #contactsupport directly with every problem you find.

Issues are prioritized based on the number of tickets opened for a specific problem. The amount of interaction you see in this thread isn’t indicative for how it’s usually like on this forum, Fairphone staff rarely chime in.

Thanks yeah, I wasted too much already and I won’t be fixing FP’s apparently broken feedback system. The forum is there, just have a guy read it

I will send them a note though, thanks

Edit: “provide a proof of purchase in your request” LOL right

Edit 2: This and another issue reported in detail via #contactsupport, I have done what I can :wink:

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Thank you for your service :nerd_face: The forum is for community help, FP support doesn’t use it to track issues. They may of course, but they have communicated often that it’s best to #contactsupport for bugs, issues and feedback.

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