Palm rejection very bad, i have to handle the FP4 very delicately often with two hand just to keep it from sensoring my thumbpalm
Proximity sensor not working well, because on/off button is also fingerprint sensor it is sometimes not switched off when putting in pocket leading to unwanted behavior
Ghost touches on the display automatically deleted my friendgroup chats channel with years of chat history gone.
Still no official lineageOS version for the FP4 i bought t 6 months ago and all the forum sad it would com soon, ps. i will never have phone with Google software
On iOde OS the VPN is crashing the phone, it reboots
On iOde i am not able to cast display to projector (still use my old phone for this)
half of your points have nothing to do with fairphone itself but with custom ROM which are btw maintained by great people in their freetime for free for you.
I voted āSatisfiedā. It is everything I thought it would be. The āminusā points are unavoidable. For instance, it is bulky, especially with the cover on, but that is the trade off you need to make in order to have the modularity. And, as many of you mentioned before, this is a midrange chipset, so you cannot expect miracles.
In any case, for the type of usage I have (business, no gaming), it fits the purpose 100%.
On the plus side, I thought the camera system would be worse than it is, and I think it is perfectly OK. Not great, but good.
Overall, Iām not impressed, but Iām satisfied with my purchase.
I voted neutral. Happy with the goals and the fact that the FP exists. But unhappy with the quality of the voice (often metal), handsfree function (most times the people i wantto talk with, cannot hear me)>> and for me the primary goal of a Phone is the ability to call/speak with another personā¦ā¦
Depending on where you stand itās either a satisfying or a worrying result: 73% positive vs. 14% negative. The positive clearly wins, but on the other hand 73% is definitely not a good number, itās less than 3/4 of the voters.
Votes clearly say: āCan do betterā.
Indeed. Fact is, you never hear about the happy customers, so a forum will always be full of people complaining. Itās the type of problems people complain about which makes the difference: On one side there are the user-created issues from people trying unexpected or stupid things, on the other the real, recurring and thus confirmed problems with the product. Ideally you should only have the first kind.
still what I said: you wont find a perfect product without real failures. There will always be āMonday Productsā and issues caused by updates etc. Thats nothing Fairphone specific.
I never said or even implied this.
To make things clear, Iām not dissing Fairphone, Iām still betting on them (else I wouldnāt be here, my time is limited).
What I am saying is, Fairphone has still some efforts to make, and I do hope they are aware of this. Itās an outstanding idea, a fairly (no pun intended) good product, but it still has teething troubles.
Not because I think the product overall is bad, but because of a lot of small issues that you wouldnāt expect in a product that already solves much bigger issues.
As a simple example, it has no ARcore. Sure, my fault for not checking before but I really did not expect I would have to on a ā¬650 phone released in 2022.
I voted āSatisfiedā because my FP4 does what I need of it without excelling in any one area.
My particular use case might not fit within the expectations of the company. The ethical side is admirable but not what attracted me. I have a very specific set of requirements and the big one is no OLED screens, followed closely by repairability. I sit up and pay attention when a company says it will provide hardware AND software support for more than the usual 2 or 3 years. Being able to buy parts for self-repair for 5 years from date of purchase is what sold me on Fairphone.
The phone is mid-range and does what I expect it to do. I do think the camera could do with improvement but I use my āproperā camera if I want to take āproperā images.
I changed my vote from āneutralā to āsatisfiedā after 3 months.
You can read my previous comment if you want, which iām not allowed by the forum software to edit. expletive you, Discourse!
Camera: the problem of an unusable camera has been fixed (this doesnāt mean that the user experience is good though).
Only the FreeDCam app allows me to use both cameraās (on the back), but it canāt reliably control the LED. Itās kind-of useless if it turns your flashlight OFF when taking a photo, isnāt it?
Its auto-focus is lacking. Sometimes it doesnāt save the photo or video,ā¦
ā¦ But thatās unlikely Fairphone to blame.
Battery: Itās surviving days instead of hours on one battery
Features: everything is just running fine for now, all hardware is functioning.
I havenāt had any bluetooth connection problems, unlike my Samsung Galaxy S5.
Even the 1x1 WiFi hasnāt been bothering me, now that i make backups mostly via USB.
Even though the FP4 has a LCD instead of an OLED, the quality is just fine.
Note that i have rarely played games on my phone before, so a high framerate isnāt necessary.
Even though the phone is capable of running games, i canāt because they often rely on Google services (which i donāt have support for).
Now that i donāt work for an ISP anymore, i have little need for the IR blaster.
Iāve yet to buy a USB-C to 3,5mm adapter for my headset, but havenāt needed the 3,5mm jack yet because the only app i needed it for (Teamspeak) isnāt working on the phone (because iāve degoogled the phone and some apps are hell-bent on checking subscriptions with Google)
I donāt really miss the notification LED, i rarely get sent- or called for important things.
The only time this bugged me was when i was in another room and my mother was calling me for a medical reason, and by the time returned, i had no idea i had a missed call. Luckily she kept calling until i picked up the phone!
General: Most of the problems that iām experiencing arenāt to blame on Fairphone, but Google. The phone itself is quite good.
I voted unsatisfied, although I will admit this is partially on me. I did not research whether the phone has ARcore, although in my defense I really did not expect a 650ā¬ phone past ~2017 to not have it, nevermind the Fairphone 4.
Sadly, this also makes the phone unusable for me as I need ARcore. I tried hacking it in, and while it sort-of works, it becomes too unstable to be useful.
Anyone feel that youāve paid a significant amount of money for a beta quality phone? I seem to have issues with it each day with it glitching and being buggy. Lots of UI issues like this morning my phone having a mind of its own continually scrolling without me touching it.
I work for a tech company and things do happen with systems but feels like there are fundamental issues. Perhaps my expectations are too high?
Lack of quality assurance and product testing
relying on the eco side of the product to justify the investment
knock on impact of my customer happiness and satisfaction
lack of recommendations (which helps to drive brand reputation and sales)
Was answering before your post was moved and Itās possible you were not referring specifically to the FP4
Note also: This topic was initially a Poll on the FP4 not a place for questions, but your post directly asks for opinions and views
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So hereās the reply I had written:
No.
Iām not sure which phone you have but I have two FP3+ and nothing has been wrong with them for over two years each.
A daughter has an FP4 with a loose battery which is being attended to officially
The investment is on the human aspect not eco, as in better conditions and pay for the miners and factory workers, which probably still donāt get enough.
Sure there have been some software issues, but Iām not sure they are a problem to most people, hence the small percent that use the forum.
However given how slow support can be, not being a high-street shop, I would not recommend Fairphone to anyone but a human rights freak.