I hope I didn’t create a thread that already exist.
I owned a FP2, and own a FP3 for few years now. I like the FP2 and I love the FP3 (I like the IPS screen, the screen and global phone size, the height, the mini-jack plug, the ability the install a lot of OS).
My FP3 was delievred with Android 13, so I have no experience with Android 12 or 11.
My feeling with Android 13, using it for 2 years, is my fairphone feels like laggy, slow, not really responsive.
For a few months now I use LOS21. I wanted to remove Google services from my phone and try anothers Android based OS. \e\OS was on the bench too, and still in my mind (but I don’t like the GUI, I prefer the stock one like LOS or FPOS).
My feeling didn’t changed, my phone feels like slow, laggy and not responsive.
My researches, online, give the answers that the FP3 can’t really hanlde the lastest OS like LOS21 or FPOS13 without having some lags.
I plan to try older OS, especially LOS 17/18/19.
Does anyone tried those differents version (also FPOS 11/12)?
Does anyone tried \e\OS, Ubuntu?
While perception of this might be a bit subjective, I can’t really confirm running Android 13-based /e/OS on a Fairphone 3.
/e/OS is based on LineageOS.
Do you experience this slowness or lag in certain Apps only, or across the board, also in the OS UI (Settings etc.)?
The lags are everywhere. Apps like Chrome or Firefox are very slow, also sometimes the settings menu.
Slow for me is a couple of second between my action by pressing the touch screen and the FP3 answer. This is quite fast, but in comparaison to my Pixel 4 and 5 I have the feeling of lag.
Very slow means there is a few second, sometimes 5 or 6 between a simple action through the touch screen and the FP3 answer.
My (feeling) referencies are my two (Old) Pixel (My professionnal phones).
I am aware and you are right perception is very subjective, and there is solution to a slow device, the first and easier one is to wait a few second.
But I like to have a nice and smooth experiences with my devices (computers, cameras, smartphones, …). This is why I wanted to have this kind of feedback from users.
Under FP13 and 21 this is not confortable to use my FP3 to browse online for exemple. I use my professionnal phones instead.
That feeling is share by people around me that own a Fairphone 3 too.
Like AnotherElk, I’m running /e/OS (Android 13) on my FP3+ and cannot report any noticeable lags. Your 5-6 second delays are indeed off the norm. There might be an app running wild in the background and/or you might want to check how full your internal storage is.
You can actually replace the /e/OS default launcher (called “Bliss Launcher”) by a launcher of your choice. Not sure anymore, but isn’t the LineageOS launcher called “Trebuchet”?
You’re right, LineageOS launcher is Trebuchet, but I am not talking about the Launcher, which is a part of the GUI, but of the whole GUI.
43GB free in the internal storage and 118GB free in the external storage.
Onedrive, Jriver Media, Firefox, and AuroraStore are installed. No social network app, I use mainly Firefox.
In developper setting I limited to 2 servicies in background. This did nothing more.
I don’t know Jriver Media.
Since many people use Firefox and AuroraStore and I haven’t read about lags like that I would expect Onedrive to be guilty since it could have hooked into file changes alarms and every time a file is modified it could check it.
PS: JriverMedia could produce a similar behaviour when it checks for every new file if it is a media file.
The FP3 is a five year old mid range phone, it’s obviously not a recent top notch system. But mine is running stock FPOS and for sure not as slow as you describe yours.
You mention this is a five years old phone. You problably mean it can’t run lastest apps and lastest Android as fast as the new phones.
So thread was about this.
Is the Fairphone 3 faster with five years old Android versions.
I have some old phones that are not slow with there original Android version and slow with new ones.
Computers with XP were not slow, but are slow with W10.
Newer OS and apps are obviously more demanding, so you can’t expect the smoothness of a recent top tier smartphone as a Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra from a FP3 of 2019.
But as already said multiple times, waiting five to six seconds after any command ain’t ‘normal’ behavior of a FP3.
Running older OS is never a good solution for security reasons, not on a PC and also not on a smartphone connected to the Internet.
Security is an utopy in IT.
Security means get the lastest devices to run the lastest OS hopping you are in advance from the “pirates”.
It’s an utopy and a call to the consommation. This kind of discours is taking to keep people afraid and force them to buy buy buy. Keep in mine that with pirates you will ne always in late and never safe, last OS or not.
Safety in IT is mainly what actions does the user. The risk is the user’s actions.
Maybe this is not normal that my phone is slow as this, but I am not the only with lastest OS.
Anyway, I was here to ask if there were curious people that have tested differents OS. But maybe I am the first one.
Opening the front door of a house all night, because you think that no lock would be good enough to keep a professional burglar outside is no reasonable solution in my eyes.
So security patches are of course never enough, but only one piece of the puzzle to use the Internet in a safe way, as important as any other.
I am agree with you in this points, but in the world of Android updates are often one of the last worries of smartphones builders, those companies prefere release new phones rather keeping the old ones up to date. Even Fairphone doesn’t release updates as fast and regulary as they should. I have more security updates since I am on LineageOS. From my perspective, talking about “security” on stock Android (manufacturer ROMs) is complicated.
If you use FPOS 13 and emphasize the importance of security, I think it would be fair to start by applying those same principles to your own setup.
My goal was to gather experiences and feedback regarding performance, not to debate the security aspect.
That said, maybe my Fairphone 3 needs some adjustments to improve its performance.
It presumably lags because the specs FP3 are so woeful! Try a phone with better specs (better chipset, more RAM) and your issues could partially resolve.
