Investing in long-lasting design: Android 7 for the Fairphone 2

Would it be an option to continue monthly releases with only the AOSP security patches?

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For the time being, as they are still investigating which issues are related to a lack of input, but also which are fixable/which ones need longer workarounds, the team is reluctant to pin exact bugs from the list. However, I hope that once we narrow down the maintenance roadmap, we will be able to share more specific information.

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The team is currently looking into timeline options - if it will indeed be possible to continue the monthly pace, or communicate a different maintenance possibility. I will make sure to communicate any changes that will occur as soon as possible.

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Thanks for the update, appreciated.
It’s a bit terse, but between the lines I read that a January maintenance update is not scheduled. Shame, some people would like to see at least the bootloader fixes (bug #7, #26 and #30) rolled out.

Has the team been in touch with the Qualcomm open source people? There’s many helpful people over in the ##linux-msm IRC channel on Freenode that are working hard on upstream kernel and userspace support. The Qualcomm employees there know their way through the internal documentation and procedures, while a contributor from Red Hat pretty much single handedly implemented a GPU driver based on reverse engineering efforts. Even if you don’t want to go the “open source” route with components, you might be amazed with their level of technical knowledge on the matters.

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I’d suggest changing the link in the bugtracker that is included in the ‘small information update’ to also include issues that are listed as ‘in progress’ and ‘selected for investigation’ (which are issues that have progressed beyond ‘confirmed’, the only type currently shown). There’s a lot of duplicate issues being created because, for example, the reboot instead of shutdown bug isn’t listed by default when using the current link. A better option (imho) would be:
https://bugtracker.fairphone.com/project/fairphone-android-7/issues?order_by=-total_voters&q=&status=184,178,186

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I’ll make the change today :slightly_smiling_face: Thank you for the feedback!

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Is there any news already about the timeline and the possibility of (security) regular updates?

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Not at the moment, the team is still working on it. I aim to bring more news as soon as we know more, not just about this coming update but also on the process timeline.

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Is there any news about the schedule? You are probably busy with the FP3 however it would be nice to have the monthly updates back (and fixing some annoying bugs)

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Agreed!
I still have refrained from updating, as there are so many reports of troubles, that I will not risk my working phone.

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The guys are working super hard to bring the next release. More news in the coming days :slight_smile:

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@Monica.Ciovica sorry for bother you again, is there any news about the timeline of the software development of the FP2?

Hi @ocramarco, coming from the last update released on the 28th of August the team is currently working on a beta version for the next update. This means more news should be coming in the next couple of weeks.

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Hi Monica
Is there any hopeful news for owners of FP2 after a couple of couples of weeks?

From the bugtracker activity it seems that the team released another beta last Friday. Looks like the next update is still work-in-progress. From experience the time between the final beta/release candidate and release is never less than a week… but could of course be more if further development is needed.

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Thx for the info.
I would rather get an update, that is thoroughly checked and as bugfree as possible.
Therefore (imho) better to wait another week or more. :wink:

What @RSpliet says is correct. The next update has been with the beta testing team for over a month already. It was supposed to fix a number of complicated bugs at once and it seems that that was a bridge too far. It has now been split, so if nothing major happens, some wifi fixes should appear soon while the other stuff still undergoes testing.

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I really miss the regular, monthly security updates.

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Question of priorities currently.

If you prioritise running Fairphone’s official OSes, you currently will have to wait a bit while they try to overcome technical difficulties with the latest update.

If you prioritise timely security updates, #lineageos reliably gets them for the time being, but it’s a voluntary community effort, not an OS officially supported by Fairphone.

Question of priorities currently.

Too bad that the security of the devices and the customer data on it has no priority for Fairphone. :frowning: