There’s a German start-up that is about to produce a “Phablet”, a thingy between a smartphone and a tablet, called Shift7. They claim to be willing to produce fairly to a certain extent, I haven’t studied their website though so I don’t know how serious this is. Might be worth having a look at: https://www.startnext.de/en/shift7.
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I use my PC(s) for gaming and I highly doubt I’d be interested in a “fair PC”, because it will not be possible in a hundred years to have a fair gaming PC. 
Why not?
Fair is about sourcing and workers welfare, not about performance. 
Greetings
Tom
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I’m not interested in a super powerful smartphone.
I am only interested in a powerful PC though.
After buying the FP I also got the Fair Mouse from NagerIT, but in a lot of ways FP’s effort is way better. First they don’t have a community, and also the plastic keys broke very soon… Additionally (even if it is not that fair), in my opinion it would have been fairer for the Fair Mouse to use a wireless approach rather than the wire because I think this would extend its lifetime.
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@Alfonso: Thanks for that! How can I order now that the crowdfunding period has ended?
@Stefan: Unless you’re talking about the Sandberg approach I doubt that using batteries is fairer. (For nature. I’ve never lost a mouse because of the cable and you can also replace it.)
Good question. I’m not involved in the project so I don’t really know; a superficial glance at the link I posted as well as their website did not reveal anything regarding your question. The website could be more informative, really. I suggest you just write the team; find ways to contact them on their website http://www.shiftphones.com/.
Btw, the producer announces the development of a new smartphone called Shift5. All in all, I have the feeling that they are nowhere near being as transparent (regarding all aspects of production) as the Fairphone team is, though.
One would have to calculate that. The FP also uses a rechargeable battery. But probably it’s more efficient to not use Li-Ion batteries.
What about an induction approach? At least you move your mouse all the time, so it could generate energy through the movement.
Back to the topic: I just have a problem with the wire because it’s one part of a mouse which breaks easily.
PS: I can’t reply through a new thread on the Fairphone… Maybe we could/should discuss this in a new thread?
I think we’ve gone a little off-topic @Stefan @Alfonso_Muskedunder @aexl, as Samy’s post was specifically about a FairPad.
It may be worth starting a new topic about fair products in general as this is definitely a conversation worth having with everyone - you can create a new topic directly from the right hand side of one of the posts by clicking ‘Reply as new Topic’
@Chris_R no, unfortunately this only seems to work on a desktop, but not if I connect to the forum on my Fairphone…
Ahaha, I walked right into that one
Yeah it only works on the desktop version
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Thanks for the Information and the new thread.
I checked the “Startnext”-Pad, which is a valid Approach, but it is not as consequential fair as FairPhone, as far as I understood.
Furthermore, it is just 7 inch and a Phablet, not 10 or 12 as is preferable for a Tablet. It is a valid point, that of course somebody else could/should take care of a FairPad and this company concentrates on the FP - why not.
It is of course preferable to do one thing right instead of two things wrong… - nevertheless I would appreciate and support the idea of having these two products with a comparable design and a fair and sound software Basis - over which the discussion is ongoing as well.
As a happy fairphone-user for almost one year already, I’m hoping that someday when my ipad-battery is completely dead (it’s almost there), can’t there be a Fair-Pad?
From the last declarations in the Fairphone blog, they explicitely concentrate on the phone and not the tablet in 2015 (new model to come in 6 months, with more ‘internal’ design as they recruited an engineer for this, etc.)
There have been various discussion about dreams of a fair tablet in this forum, but this is not the direction things are taking at least for next year.
FWIW, you have a really original newcomer in the Tablet field, that while not Fair at all does feature an original commitment also much discussed here: an OS independent from Google. This is the Jolla tablet, announced just a couple of days ago.
Jolla started from the engineers from Nokia in Finland that originally developed the ancient Nokia unix phones, and they indeed developed a Jolla phone that shipped in extremely poor quantities (I think they built 600 while Fairphone started with their first 15000); I had a very serious look at them at the time because for me an independent OS was as important as fair procurement.
But I abandoned them when I discovered the app ecosystem in Jolla was just empty (this was one year ago -but not even a non-google email app for instance at the time).
This may have changed somehow by now as they announce an android emulator (but, for instance the Blackberry tabled also annouced an emulator and it definitely wasn’t a success).
Still, while once again the Jolla tablet is by no means a Fair procurement, you may be interested in participating with them. If they OS is successful in bringing apps in, I’ll definitely come in too, even though their announced specs at this moment are roughly twice lower than my Samsung galaxy note 10 as concerns processing power and battery capacity.
(edit) My comparison above with the Samsung appears unfair. Given the difference in screensize (and I think the screen is the biggest power user), if I relate the battery capacity to screen surface, the Jolla indeed sports better than the Samsung.
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by a simple division of the current amount of crowdfunding by the average tablet price I understand they just reached 6000 tablets prepaid at this moment.
This is not so bad, and vastly better than their phone last year (which was way costlier btw). Maybe the crowdfindung example in Fairphone has been helpful, although they are using a third-party (indiegogo) for the crowdfunding, which IMHO fragilizes them wrt an integrated solution like in Fairphone…
When I looked at their Indigogo-page, they had surpassed their funding goal by over 300%. So it must be an unexpected run on the tablet.
What surprises me, is the fact that Jolla still exists, after their not-so-successful phone. (They must have some powerful investors stand in for them, besides the croudfunding, I think).
I somehow remember there was a big national pride in Finland, motivating participation to the phone.
As I said I indeed was tempted, but at the same time I was recovering from a Blackberry tablet : also an independent OS (although closed), but that miserably failed to bring apps in.
I did register in Jolla user forums etc. and because of my story with Blackberry I had very precise desiderata in mind (serious email app, ad-filtering browser, a calendar that’d sync with ics from any server…) and… I found nothing at the time.
I do remember that they were talking about an Android emulator right from the start.
From what you say I take that they still do not offer this? It seems harder to conceive than they thought.
Still, in comparison to Fairphone, Jolla always seemed to me very exclusive and their approach was to a small tech-savvy community. I somehow cannot connect with their philosophy, although I really liked their Sailfish OS.