FrameWork laptop launch - repairable, upgradable - New stuff for 2023 too

I really don’t want dual boot… then I would just remote desktop into a Linux machine with HVM. But a strong machine isn’t even needed for that, you can use some oldie from 5 years ago easily.

Good point on it going to take a while till its available here. They get no Fairphone though. Meanwhile, they can beta test Frame.Work for us :wink: (Ubuntu 21.10 should be out Soon ™).

1 Like

OK ‘Pre-orders’ are now up for France, Germany and the UK

2 Likes

Double lost :wink: (well only half-lost for @JeroenH)
Quite surprised by how fast they were to bring it to Europe.

1 Like

Just tried to order but still in dollars and with US keyboard, and no orange bezel.

Will email them for update

1 Like

There was a hidden option to change language :blush:

Note the price is the same in dollars as UK sterling $999 or £999 for the basic ?? Didn’t try the €

OK Gone for the middle one with

Framework Laptop

Configuration

  • CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-1165G7

Customisation

  • Keyboard: British English

Expansion Cards

  • 1 MicroSD

  • 1 Storage – 250GB

  • 1 USB-A

  • 4 USB-C

accessories

  • Power Adapter

  • Framework Screwdriver

£1497

Expected February

My last PC was a Raspberry Pi4 using an old TV > had to buy a mouse and keyboard all for £100+

OK that’s it until the FP5 or 6

UPDATE:

And the warranty:

Framework warrants that Framework branded products, parts, and modules (“Product”) when used in accordance with Framework documentation and guidance, are and will be free from defects in materials and workmanship for a period of one (1) year from the date of delivery of the Product (the “Warranty Period”). However, if you purchase the Product for delivery to the UK, EU or EFTA, the Warranty Period shall be two (2) years.

4 Likes

While I could ship to at least Germany, I want either ANSI US or ISO US layout, so I’ll have to wait. But I’m also unhappy with Intel CPU (maybe not Alder Lake). I rather have ARM or AMD. I’d still probably order it because its the best available and I’m in the market for a new, repairable laptop. That they’d do 1:1 on GBP and EUR was to be expected.

Why?
And it’s actually even more than 1:1, the extension bays are 9 or 19$ in the US, but 10 or 20€ in Europe.

1 Like

Cause US companies do that all the time.

2 Likes

The difference here is the VAT being included in the price for European customers. US producers of electronics often don’t buy many products from the EU for which they could offset VAT against their sales, the bulk of the cost is in production which is not in the EU. As the USA doesn’t have a nationwide VAT system, only local sales taxes, there is no way to request VAT back in the USA either.

6 Likes

… prices in the US are given without VAT anyway, because not only the different states add their own different taxes, apparently there are possible county and city taxes, too. Sales taxes in the United States - Wikipedia

1 Like

Yeah, basically prices in EU b2c must be VAT included (consumer may assume such if its not mentioned). EU b2b and US not, so its in the advantage of seller to not mention such (well, not if I am consumer and buyer, but I must be weird). We in Europe are being better protected against false advertising IMO (we also got different VAT among EU countries). One of the many things making me happy to live in EU.

4 Likes

Knowing how much you are gowing to pay upfront for something … pfff … communism :wink: .

@Adrian_Grimm 20 characters…

1 Like

They’ve started shipping to Ireland, Austria, and The Netherlands and added iDeal payment option.

4 Likes

Also to Germany.
My order is on its way now (batch 8).
I am excited to receive it within the next days.
Anybody else who ordered it?

1 Like

Yes I have a tracking number to say it is leaving Taiwan for the UK :slight_smile:

1 Like

Guys, which OS are you going to use with it?

Bought with Windows but will dual boot with Ubuntu or Raspberry (Debian Bullseye)

I have some microscope and solar charging related apps that are still bound to ‘ms windows’ or ‘apple’

2 Likes

I will use it with Windows

2 Likes