FP4 - very privacy-friendly custom ROM iodéOS

Thank you all for the interesting discussion here. Without having used it, functionality-wise and regarding its privacy-focus, I really like iodeOS. However, I also agree with @hirnsushi and I will not use it as long as the project is not open-sourced, simply since I cannot trust proprietary software. Even if the developers act with good intents, it is simply impossible to check and balance their product and there is no chance to discover possible weaknesses.

Thus, my personal choice is to use CalyxOS. It has a focus in terms of privacy similar to iodeOS, but is open source with no proprietary apps being part of their builds.

I hope, the iodeOS project finds a way to financially sustain without keeping parts of their OS proprietary, then I would be happy to give it a try and supporting the project.

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ok, I can understand your thought.

You only accept FOSS software, because the source code is open and can be transparently traced and therefore can be considered safe (at least safer than closed source).

But let me still ask two questions:
You check all source codes of all your used apps and programs by yourself? Line by line?
OR do you rely on someone else to do it and uncover any security holes?

Only the first approach would be the consistent one.
The second approach is pure weighing in security without certainty.

But if you really do it right and consistently, then all my respect.

That’s sound’s like a wind up. Could anyone do that ?

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Yes, but that would be consistent.
Otherwise, I have to trust that everything will be done according to the rules.
And then it is irrelevant in the end whether it is closed or open source.
Either I check it and am sure, or I trust it.

I don’t want to resist the whole idea. I really don’t. I’m also a friend of FOSS. Definitely.
But not necessarily just for the security thought behind it.

I just can’t get used to the idea that opensource should be more secure per se, just because the source code is open.
That is too easy and too naive for me to believe.

But again, I don’t want to start a discussion here. I don’t want to be a tease.
There is not only black or white. There are thousands of shades of gray in between…

Maybe I’m just too naive in the end :wink:

iodé released a new update for FP4 (20220316) today

Quick changelog :

  • all aps updated
  • march security patch, synced LineageOS :+1:
  • News app reworked
  • Setup Wizard : new iodé introduction
  • Teracube 2e second batch released, heavy work for fixing OTA issues
  • FP4 : automatic brigthness fixed :+1:
  • few issues fixed here and there (playlist crash in Music app, … )

!!!

if someone plays with the idea to install iode on the FP4:

Do not follow these instructions:

Use this one:

Otherwise you risk the bootloader unlock brick

The automatic brightness correction works as smooth as butter
No more jumping to the maximum brightness and never back again…

Walked around the house.
From the bright window to the storage room (completely dark) and back to the window.
Very smooth. No jumping. Smooth as butter

Where did you find that 20220316 update?

I can only find iode 2.3 build for FP4 (20220126). Installed that but Updater also says that no update is available.

Edit: found it iodéOS 2.4 beta available - Development - iodé community

you’ve posted the same link twice (:

Yes, you’re right
But both are correct now.
They have corrected it

Personally, I’d sponsor development of a mobile distribution I can use day to day. Mobile phones have a lot of potential but the software out there is… lacking.

Regrettably, iodeOS is not open source. I think it’s tricky to convince people to financially sponsor an open source project that is that project is currently closed source. This also doesn’t reflect too well on their mentality: it seems there’s a preference for delivering closed-source software.

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Anyone can no one has to

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May I ask what of iodéOS is not yet open source - apart from the firewall/ad blocker?
On GitLab I find the OS directory for FP4 and the Apps that are integrated into iodéOS.

firefox loads tracker already before installation … Outcry
DuckDuckGo restricts search ads … Outcry
iodé is not OpenSource … Outcry

All parroting and bashing …without further details
Yes, everything has its justification, but even think about it a little bit than just trumpet everything out :wink:

Sorry, I don’t mean to bash here. Quite the contrary, I’m trying to provide useful constructive criticism: if an organisation wants to have a funding model to ship open source software, then they need to ship open source software.

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right. actually, the iode app is not opensource as the only component.
Plans are to publish it as opensource in 2022

Has anyone tried Desktop Mode in iodeOS on Fp4?

Not yet
Never done that and don’t know how I should test it

This is what I did in the Fairphone Android OS, hopefully it works in iodeOS:

  1. Enable Developer Options on your phone. Go to Settings > About phone and tap on “build number” 7 times.
  2. Go to Settings > Developer options and scroll down until you reach the “APPS” section. Turn on “enable freeform windows” and “force desktop mode.”

You need a USB-C to HDMI hub or cable. Connect USB-C to FP4, connect HDMI to an external monitor. The monitor should display your phone’s screen but like a desktop computer.
You can use a Bluetooth keyboard & mouse, or if the hub has USB also, connect them to that.
I’ve never tried LineageOS, so I don’t know if all of this is possible in iodeOS based on Lineage.

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uiuiui…sorry, but i don’t have this equipment. neither a usb2hdmi nor a bluetooth keyboard nor a monitor. only a bluetooth mouse :wink:

would have liked to help you, but unfortunately I am not equipped for…

I appreciate that you tried to help. Hopefully someone running iodeOS can try this.

I have the February FP update that seems to be causing issues with getting iodeOS to work. I’ll wait until that is fixed before installing it and trying Desktop Mode.