Well what’s the point of making a reference to it? 
No it’s not, in our current ‘western’ world economy, marketshare most important, even if you or I don’t like it. It’s the numbers that count, and only the numbers that count. IMHO. At least that seems the only common denominator.
Some call it negative, others might call it realistic or disappointed… even when you pursue different values personally.
Funny that you quote Samsung, because by now they guarantee 4 years for all of their Galaxy models. And to my knowledge they already delivered on that promise with the S7 from 2016.
Those are security updates, if I understand correctly?
Interesting… This is what google returned yesterday when I typed: How many years does Samsung support their phones?
“Taking things a step further, Samsung announced in August of 2020 a whole bunch of Galaxy devices eligible for three years of Android updates, including tablets, flagship and foldable phones, and even some cheaper Galaxy A series of phones.”
Appears that since “by now” things have changed.
But I’m not very used to android or samsung, but curious and searched on… the latter refers on its website.
" Galaxy products launched since 2019, including the Z, S, Note, A, XCover and Tab series, will now receive at least four years of security updates"
They mention 4 years security updates indeed.
Android OS on some samsung phones gets 3 years of updates, as far as I can find.
Fantastic referencing Samsung. Too bad it doesn’t include they update the A series (mid range) once every 6 months. If you’re unlucky you run around with a remotely exploitable device for 6 months.
You’re right about the A series (it’s mentioned somewhere in the samsung link I posted though ;-)), but also the mentioned 4 years of security updates might be issued just 2 times a year, for all eligible devices, even for the most expensive models. But thanks for pointing it out, it’s not a small detail.
Just wanted to mention that Fairphone support has told me the storage type in the Fairphone 4 is UFS 2.1.
Not the fastest, but several times faster than the emmc 5.1 storage in my old phone and in the previous Fairphone models.
I can’t wait to experience it. 
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FP4 sadly is a not an option (for me) as it only has a single physical SIM slot, The number of providers in the UK supplying eSIMs are limited. As time goes by I expect that will change. Unhappy Apple users are already generating complaints about the lack of eSIM providers for their i-watch.
Irritations :
It will be interesting to see how well the FP4 sells. Omitting features may have alienated a few of their previous customers like me, but their brand is better known now and the FP4 also has some nice features. Though personally I think the company has made a mistake by removing those features I want, but I would think that wouldn’t I ;-), I can’t blame their bean counters for trying to keep the unit price of each phone down and hope it doesn’t put too many seasoned Fairphone users off. I also hope my FP3 lasts until the FP5 comes out.
Someone asked if Fairphone employees read this forum? Yes they do. I replied to a question about having different ring tones for each SIM on a FF3 and posted the full reply I previously received from Fairphone support saying that you couldn’t. This included the name of the employee that answered. A different Fairphone employee then edited my post to remove the name. That’s fine by me as I really ought to have removed the name in the first place. It would have been nicer if the FP employee had informed me they’d done it as my first thought was someone had hacked my login. Not for long though as editing leaves a trail.
That may have been a forum moderator not a Fairphone employee, though they do look in especially if you tag them by name.
Bean counters rarely make mistakes, but otherwise I seem to be much in agreement…
So what networks do you want to use in the UK especially those that maybe don’t have e-sims. Mind you I only use one SIM.
Not all networks support eSIMs – but they will do in time when this technology becomes standard. (Ref: June 2021)
In the UK, EE, O2 and Vodafone all currently support eSIMS in some capacity.
The main networks seem OK it’s the Virtual Networks (Tesco, Giff Gaff, Coop etc. ) that have issues maybe. So it depends ??? on who you want to use then.
It was one of each. August the 17th a Fairphone angel, then an employee on the 19th. As I said they left a trail. The point was staff do read at least some of the posts here. The employee could have been alerted by someone though.
Indeed. I use t-mobile (EE) and Sky (O2) . t-mobile is a very old contract that includes minutes to 08xx numbers. I cancelled the data part as EE won’t allow t-mobile customers to access 4G. Seeing as only one phone I’ve owned in the past decade has worked properly on 3G there was no point in continuing to pay them for data hence the second SIM. Even the FP3 just hangs while on 3G until 4G is restored.
The FP3 met my requirements exactly (two physical SIM slots, an SD card slot, a headphone 3.5mm socket and status LED which eventually worked). It was my most expensive phone purchase of all time (spread over two years), but worth it. The FP4 seems to be feature regressed so most unlikely that I will purchase one. Before you buy something it has to be fit for your purpose right? Please excuse my negativity as it does seem like a fairly good phone otherwise. I do hope that the status LED and headphone socket are re-introduced on the FF5.
I doubt that ?? There may be an OLED screen which will negate the need for an LED but a jack I very much doubt
But by then I imagine all networks will have e-SIMs