Holy shιt, this is next-level UI stupidity, who would have thought you could click on that!?
Thank you so much though, this seems to have fixed it for me (I rebooted the phone just in case). You just saved me a lot of headaches.
This is pretty incredible honestly, that no one seem to have been informed of this, including devs, especially when you realize how many people this affects…
And now, for the tedious part where we all manually toggle all the apps we use daily, and those that cannot just be randomly killed when the OS pleases (so basically all of them).
For me some app were apparently already unrestricted (GMail and Discord, maybe others), I wonder what the criteria were for that choice.
Edit: just realized the video was posted 1 year ago!
You already could set Battery optamization per app (3 Options) before and optimized always was the default. It was just weirdly placed now with A15 and reduced to 2 options. I think there are reports this doesnt help and at the end should not be needed to give all apps always unrestricted access.
I personally never had this issue, so havent set all my Apps to unrestricted.
Seriously now, I was speaking generally. This new fad of putting everything on YouTube – especially things which would be better served as text – grates on my nerves: “What time is it?” “Wait, I’m uploading the answer video to Youtube”. I totally understand people want to make money, but too much is too much.
My free run I’m tracking just got killed mid-run. I was waiting for “3 km - your pace….” but then I realized my Fairphone 4 just killed the App again and my run is gone… Maybe I shouldnt have clicked on my audio player to change the album I was listening.
Multitasking was better in 95 than it is with my FP 4 right now.
3rd and last Fairphone for me. I loved the idea, i fixed USB ports, changed the batteries and so on. But I think it’s time to change.
Did you enable unrestricted background usage for your tracking app? I had to enable this setting even long before Android 13 for tracking or GPS recording apps, independent of the phone. Killing apps in the background more and more aggressively really is an Android-thing that Google keeps pushing with every new major Android version.
Personally, now that this problem is solved for me, I plan to really look into e/OS/
Because it’s pretty tiring to have a deteriorated user experience on Android, just because they sometimes decide (unilaterally) to change the UI and inner workings of the system
I *may* have found the solution, no thanks to Fairphone’s (lack of) support. The fact that they don’t treat this issue like the 5-alarm fire that it is is jarring.
This post on another website about an app is the first thing that I’ve seen that tells how to access a “secret menu” (!!!) to set individual apps to unrestricted background app use as opposed to “Optimised” battery usage. You have to tap on the “Allow background usage” TEXT, not simply toggle the switch. This will open up a new menu where you can select “Unrestricted” background use.
Thanks, I didn’t see those. I don’t understand why Fairphone doesn’t post this themselves and make it more visible (and official). It’s a huge problem from all of the complaints that I’m seeing here and elsewhere. This hunt and peck, luck-of-the-draw, lazy support that will sink the company.
Now I see why they didn’t share this as a fix—it’s not a fix. I changed my podcast app to “Unrestricted” and yet it’s still shutting off when it’s in the background.
It’s neither secret nor hidden. As per Android GUI the available menu is indicated by the seperator line between the menu button with the text on it and the toggle button. You will find this in more settings than this one.
If it would just be a description text for the toggle without a button function, there would not be a separator line.
Of course it is debatable whether this is good GUI design, as it is plainly not very obvious, but it is what it is .
e/Os still is Android, as is Iode, Calyx, Graphene and so on… just for the records and the hint to above link that it seems is was seen with Graphene as well…
Yes, I don’t know exactly in what way it differs from Android, so here I was hoping that they also tend to mitigate problems like the one we had here. I’ve never looked into the world of custom android distro, so I don’t know yet what is possible or not.
To be fair to them, I found an answer (working for some and not working for you apparently) less than 24 hours ago and posted it here. If this is the first they’re hearing of it, I don’t think Fairphone devs seeing this, testing it and making an official post is a reasonable timeframe to call “bad support”.
Just a suggestion, but maybe your podcast app has other dependencies in terms of other services it uses, and when they get killed in the background, so does your podcast app. Have you tried going through every app and enabling them all, and see if that does the job?
No, they were aware of the issue on Fairphone 5s back on 9 September and people are still complaining about it in that thread. There were was another post by Beta users flagging this bug that I saw (can’t find it easily right now). If you look on the forum here and the Fairphone subreddit you’ll see there are complaints about this issue going back months.
The issue is not limited to my podcasting app, it’s any audio app, any app that I navigate away from (e.g., going to a web browser to get a link to then share in a social media app, etc.). I’m shocked that they released it for Fairphone 4 when people are still complaining about it with Fairphone 5.
I’ve also been having issues with background apps, even after trying the suggested fixes. Doesn’t mater what battery optimization setting I use, opening/switching to an app requires it to reload.
I’m aware that this is a widespread issue with A15, not just with Fairphone, but they could have put a warning for it on the update, in bold, red text preferably. I would much rather take my chances missing out on security patches, than have it constantly kill my apps.
*Sigh* time to downgrade and have to deal with setting up all my apps again.
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