FP Security Updates need to be more frequent

Whatever happens won’t fix our current Fairphone issue though. :frowning_face:
Besides, Google has started trying to get a grip on updates since Android 8 (Project Treble), and see where we still are 8 years later. It’s a “work in progress”… I don’t know how old you are, but I myself am unlikely to live long enough to see it finished.

was never somewhere defined as providing security updates as fast as Google for their Pixel Phones for example, or have they? If so please provide a link where this was mentioned.

Why do you go so far to defend fairphone here?

It was literally one of their boldest marketing line, the promised long-term support.

You want him to find a FP4 flyer from 2022 and point at the headline?

Seriously. :exploding_head:

And yeah. Google, etc are big players of the industry.
FP uses the same glossy marketing and lingo as they do, so consumers expect the same quality.

when one states Fairphone promised them that they will get monthly security updates and e.g. as fast as Pixel phones and this was the promise to proof long-term support, yes I expect such can be proofed else its just an opinion and no fact. And asking for a fact isnt defending its asking for a fact. With such a fact one would have an argument to get in contact with FP, anything else is just a opinion or anecdotal evidence and both will not help much in my eyes.

The classic “moving the goalposts” strategy… :roll_eyes:
Could you please show me where I said they had to “provide updates as fast as Google for their Pixel phones”?
Or where I even made a comparison with Google, or mentioned the Pixel in this specific context?
Indeed, I didn’t. Case closed.

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PS: Oh yes, I see this thread has been silenced (put on maximum “slow mode”).
Very elegant, to ask for justification and make it impossible to give it. :clap:

You are accusing Fairphone for not fulfilling their promises of long product support. But they are still maintaining three phones with security updates. So what do you mean with your accusation? You are complaining about speed and only Google is always faster.

The update intervals were not specified.
But I would say some people (at least me) came to expect regular and high quality updates. (Why should I expect the opposite?)

Because that is the kind of support I imagine when you drop the word long-term support.

It’s mostly caused by the marketing IMO, selling the image of a decent phone with decent support.
Pricing also suggest something. But let’s not go that far.

Here’s a Wayback Machine link to the FP4 product page around end 2021, just around when I bought mine:

Please if you are an FP4 user, read it now tell me that today you get behind all what’s said there. I dare you :smiley:

It’s full of stuff like this:

We don’t just promise long-term support, software updates and friendly customer service. We have it in writing: A 5-year warranty for every Fairphone 4*.

The Fairphone 4 dual cameras are the real deal. A pair of premium lenses for all the details or the bigger picture.

…then there’s this gem:

This device is a challenge to the industry to rethink the modern smartphone: True innovation should be about solving problems, rather than creating new ones.

I mean, LOL.

Except other players set the bar very high for support, “premium cameras” and so on.

They didn’t care what these words mean to consumers used to Apple, Google, Samsung, etc

If you talk like Google you need to walk like Google.

Most likely no one would ever complain, if a third party vendor is not as fast rolling out security patches as the owner of the software. Anyway, this is security stuff and I find it necessary that the patches are at least rolled out in the very same month as they are published. So FP still would have another 13 hours to do so, today. :wink:

Yes:

Just in time :smiley:

Nicht, dass sie ihr Versprechen nicht halten

Depending on the definition of “in time”… March 5th is well past, we’re April 1st today…
Oh well, at least they’re here. Better late than never.

See you again in a month, for the “May 5th updates” event… :roll_eyes:

Yesterday we still had March, so the March update was delivered just in time

Yeah, I guess. I mean, I would personally be happy if they released updates monthly at the last day of the month. That’s around 24 days slower than Google. Works for me.

But the issue here is that the February update was almost 2 months late. Eventually, said update will include something being actively exploited and Fairphone would take up to 2 full months to put a stop to it.

there are active exploits as we speak so thats how important april 2025 security fixes and updates for googles android come into play here, and once again we are in the past with fairfone =D

Why ‘are we in the past’? Even for Pixel Phones the April Update just arrived today.

Being off-topic in the other topic I moved it here.

Fear not, they will fix it in 2-3 months :smiley:

Some news articles about the exploits:

https://thehackernews.com/2025/04/google-releases-android-update-to-patch.html

Another vulnerability being used in the wild that we’ll have to wait a month or three to get a fix for:

https://cyberinsider.com/android-may-2025-security-update-fixes-actively-exploited-freetype-zero-day/

Well, well. -sigh-

Security Updates are late again (19 days late as of today)… :frowning_face:

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(And no, those are the “May 5th” patches, not the “May” patches. End of the month = 26 days late, almost a month.)

Meanwhile German Vodafone/Telekom Users are still on March security patches.