I already went ahead… Here is the new topic:
This information came available yesterday when I published the first post of this thread. So it is correct you have not heard about it before.
You can submit your email address on our dedicated Fairphone 1 page.
You will be notified as soon as the refurbished phones are in.
Can you put the source code to GitHub? Somebody will certainly finish a stable version
Please read above: Fairphone 1 maintenance comes to an end
Thanks for information, but…
Oh, you are using two different expressions: “Refurbished phones” and “Fairphone 2 New Life Edition”. But at the end is the same.
Not very clear, sorry.
“New Life Edition” seems to be some kind of euphemism… I agree that it’s not very obvious that those are refurbished FP2s.
I totally agree with Marte ! More anger than disappointment.
After all news and announcements during the last months I haven’t expected a serious solution for fp1 users.
Conclusion: FP(U)1 has been a complete maldevelopment.
At the end I am fed up with fairphone’s empty advertisement slogans.
With a lifecircle of 3-4 years I can switch back to the oneway-solutions of regular companies.
At least I would have expected an upgrade offer to FP2 with a considerable discount.
Fair means also fair to customers.
Really bad descision to not making the OS open source from the beginning and at the same time not being able to support the development. This is really lame.
So in the end my old nexus with Lineage lasts much longer and therefore is more sustainable than the FP. I handled my FP with maxium care, the battery is in really great shape, but I still can throw the thing away, now.
This is driving me mad, especially as all my colleagues laugh about this situation.
I will never buy or recommend a FP again. It is a waste of money and resources (is not sustainable, more the opposite)
Please read this post by @paulakreuzer above:
At that time they did everything to invoke the impression that they do know. And the reason why we bought their phones was that we believed them. I don’t think that 30,000 people would have spent 330 bucks each, knowing that the manufacturer is grossly incompetent. Else, the company would have never come this far. Now, they are leaving scorched earth with many of their early adopters.
I do think that when it became apparent to them, that they are unable to fulfil their promises, they should have immediately warned the users, instead of making more empty promises, which they did.
And they should not end this SNAFU with a false claim of having supported the FP1 for 3 1/2 years. The only thing that ended yesterday was their empty promises. Support has already ended ages ago.
For me, the FP1 was the first (and probably last) time to ever buy a new phone. Else, I only use second hand devices with custom ROMs on them. I did this certainly to support a noble cause, but I did not do it to be treated as a Guinea pig.
The point is, that we already had swallowed the sour apple of buying a fairphone which was not really fair: Only two of the > 70 minerals uses have traceable supply chains, workers in China did not receive living wages. The work hour limit was 60 hours/week which is the legal limit in China anyway. Fairphone positioned itself against binding regulations of supply chain responsiblity, even though their business would have been impossible if it hadn’t been for the Dodd-Frank act…
So what’s left? What good cause has the FP1 actually served? From my point of view, the glass is at least four fifth empty.
I know the threat. Yes, mediathek (not going open source) was the wrong descision.
But of course it was my bad descision to buy a FP (or any other non lineage capable phone)
I am sad to see so many people leaving the boat. I still cannot see that having an iPhone or a Samsung is a better solution. Yes, you might get a longer life time since those companies still know how to build phones and have the money to support it since they are global players who often produce under disputable conditions. On the other hand i think a broken phone often means you will buy a new one since it is not implied to repair it by yourself. The FP1 still was a milestone in my eyes and even though i am really disappointed that the soft- and hardware will be unsupported from now on, i still support the idea of solidarity, sustainability and openness.
What i don’t understand is that many people here forget that there are already impacts from FP and ideas like the cooperation with several NGOs to reduce the electronical waste, use conflict-‘free’ materials and so on. I will stick with my FP1 and i cannot see why i should or could buy another phone so far in the future. We all know that it can be a hard competition on the market and if you follow the project Fairmondo you also see that there are ambitious aims which often hard to meet.
So i hope Fairphone won’t make the same mistakes twice. Otherwise this project will lose even more of its idealistic community.
Yes, you might get a longer life time since those companies still know how to build phones and have the money to support it
They don’t support it longer either, but you can install Lineage on it.
Thank you, Stefan. I will look into getting the alpha-pre3 installed and the other suggestions you mentioned. Unfortunately I won’t be in the Netherlands during the #efct17 but thanks for the offer!
Well, it was fun while it lasted.
I ordered my FP1 in May 2013. The decisive factor was FP’s committment to fair (as fair as possible) raw material and fairer working conditions. Lack of 4G, a camera that couldn’t compare with the best on the market, and other small drawbacks didn’t bother me.
My phone still runs fine and does what I expect it to do. I’m on my second battery and have a fresh one waiting in a drawer, so hopefully it will serve me for at least another year, maybe even two or three.
But after that it’s thank you and goodbye. I still think the original project is (was) a good one. But I will not consider the FP2. Not only is it too big and too expensive. In my opinion it was also a mistake that a company as small as the FP chose to put itself in the frontline when it comes to developing a modular phone. Great thing in principle, but not so easy to implement, and clearly the FP2 has caused a lot of trouble for the owners, while FP’s support hasn’t been able to cope. And the lack of resources left us FP1 owners in the wilderness for quite some time. It might well be (as some are eager to point out) that no formal promises have been made, but we’ve definitely been led to believe that support for the FP1 would continue (at the very least in the form of security patches for Android 4.2.2).
I also wonder if FP have made a mistake trying to accomodate three different groups of owners whose interests may be very hard to combine:
- Those who mainly care about fairness (raw material, working conditions)
- Those who want a phone that can compete with the big brands spec-wise (camera quality, Bluetooth protocol &c &c)
- The OpenSource zealots.
Since the fairness part is my greatest concern, I will replace my FP1 (when it dies) for something cheap but reliable (my wife’s Moto G4+, running Android 7, for example). The €200+ I save can be used for promoting fairness and fair trade in other ways.
And I will follow the development of the FP3.
Yes, it is sad that the Fairphone 1 maintenance has ended.
When I bought the Fairphone 1 during the crowdfunding period at that moment it was still uncertain that there would be a Fairphone.
If one joins a crowdfunding for something that’s not even build, one takes the risks that the project could fail.
Not enough participants, the build for the phone isn’t succesfull, problems in the company etc.
So for me it’s a great achievement that there really is/was a working Fairphone 1. They made big companies to think about there way of making phones and other products.
The Fairphone 2 is better than the Fairphone 1 as Fairphone is on a learning curve whilst making Fairphones.
The FP1 was my first smartphone and initially I liked the basic ideas behind it.
That is long gone now.
- For the money I got a pretty bad phone where GPS never worked (yes I followed all the tutorials how to improve it), a very bad camera, broken movement sensors which mainly produced jitter, a very randomly working touch screen etc. (I actually went back to my ages old Sony Ericsson after a while, that at least worked fine as a phone).
- While I liked the fact that it was rooted by default. it is also stuck with this now ancient Android version with security issues and approaching obsolescence.
- The one time I needed support when my phone got bricked, they were just sending me pre-made template answers that did not help me one bit - I wasn’t even sure if they read or understood what I wrote.
I found a solution on the forum in the end, but support did definitely not live up to it’s name.
- Almost all of the idealistic concepts went overboard. The only things left are some micro-grams of tantal and tin and some relatively small niceties for the workers. Other than that, it’s just as much electronics-waste as every other phone.
- I became very wary from this experience towards people who have more idealism than brains.
While it all sounded good, in hindsight I should have become suspicious by it actually sounding too good. In the end it was totally upside down: Too much sexy webpage, too much blabla, too much social media hype, too much “we change the world one phone at a time” but way too little knowledge about actually building a phone and making it sustainable.
- A smart phone is by definition bad for the environment, wasteful and non-sustainable, bad for the mind (by making people depend on it even for the most trivial stuff), bad for social life, bad for the eyes, makes people poorer by draining them in micropayments, bad as can be for privacy…
So I would say that making a “Fair Phone” is an utterly idiotic idea from the getgo.
The only thing it does is to give people who are at least partly aware of how bad “smartphones” actually are a thin coating of feeling a bit better than when buying something else.
Like painting the local coal-driven power plant white.
Makes all the difference, doesn’t it?
Wow, I’m at a loss.
Sure I can understand the decision if you have financial stability trouble.
But this, this means you’ve lost a customer. I don’t see myself buying a fairphone again now. I’ve put my trust in this and you have stepped on it, even begrudgingly. This blows.
This WILL be damageable for you.
Sad, but to be expected since we’re almost a year after the initial planned date for the android update.
As I’ve said before, I’ve backed the project because of the thoughts behind it and I still stand behind my choice, eventhough it meant paying more for less uptodate technology and accepting problems without complaining ( bluetooth, battery charging, uncompatible apps), The intent of FP was to build a serious compatible phone, which has only partly been achieved.
My FP1 screen started having problems recently ( my own fault, don’t keep it in your hand when running and sweating ) so I had to buy a new phone.
I didn’t buy a FP2 as I don’t want to spend that kind of money on a phone anymore. It would have been nice to have a bigger discount on the FP2 as a FP1 backer, but I accept that for this type of company there’s no room for that kind of promotions.
I’ll keep following what’s happening with Fairphone. Happy to have been a supporter, hope all goes well with FP2 and FP3.
all the best
Today Fairphine ceased the suppurt of FP1. I can’t even buy a new batterie - instead my FP1 is working still well. Why should I order a FP2 now ? Because its camery modul is’nt rather better than the poor of FP1? Because of its long waiting time? Or should I wait until FP3 is deleveloped perhaps in two years? - So much inconvenience for a fairly high price! Fairphone seems to do everything to drive out confident clients to other -conventional- brands… I really like your idea of a “fair” phone, but I cannot support its slow and inconsequent realisation.