Android 15 is Now Rolling Out to Fairphone 4! 📲 (FP4.QREL.15.14.3.20250923)

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Installed the A15 update a few days ago (SFR), no issue to report so far.

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Hi, no update yet. Still on A13.

Last info I received from Proximus is this statement: “This mainly concerns security updates that do not meet Proximus’ requirements. Applications and features mandated by the EU are missing or not sufficiently developed in this update.”

Does anybody know what the missing EU apps and features is about?

Is anybody at Fairphone working on this?

Should I consider Samsung again?

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This sounds like: ‘Not all updates have been applied’, but is contradictory in itself. They won’t release updates A and B since C is missing and witbout C it is unsafe? Sorry, but these statements don’t add up!

I’d think about switching away from Proximus, if I were in your position.

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I understand your wish to vindicate Fairphone, but the statement is rather straightforward: They say that the update doesn’t meet their requirements because “applications and features mandated by the EU are missing or not sufficiently developed”, in other words it’s too sloppy a job to be acceptable. And they aren’t the only ones thinking so (Orange did that repeatedly, and for good reason as the latest fiasco showed). Sorry. :man_shrugging:

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Hey everyone,

my Software - version:

FP4.SREL.15.14.4

Germany, Provider: PremiumSim till 31.12, then Freenet

One Sim only, no extra profile

Since 15.14.3 Quickstep is shutting down. So it’s not a pure french Orange bug and switching providers doesn’t change it. Or does it depend on the used network? I seem to be the only person…?

Update to 15.14.4 worked fine but obviously the security patch didn’t patch this bug.

Suggested Solution: use “Launcher” as Start-Up App.

Installed the alternative Launcher. It’s buggy. Sometimes my Widgets are not shown. Sometimes the homescreen doesn’t react, when switching pages or opening the library. Then I need to lock and unlock the device.

Didn’t install the 15.15.2 as I was first following the forum. Hoped that my issue will be resolved with a fixed 15.15.x version but FP is probably taking it very cautiously with that now. For good reasons.

I should’ve contacted earlier, instead of hoping -.-

Can anyone help please?

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Well, I’m afraid the only solution is to try a different launcher. Fortunately there are many different launchers available, both on Google’s Play Store as on 3rd party stores like F-Droid. You should be able to find one you like, or at least one you can work with.

Fairphone might eventually fix this issue, but I wouldn’t hold my breath, especially since by now the FP4 user base is heavily fragmented (Orange users still on FP4.TP32.C.0144 (A13), those on FP4.SREL.15.14 (A15), those on FP4.QREL.15.15.2 (A15), and I might be forgetting some patch level… :grin:) - not to mention FP5 and FP6, which also need some of Fairphone’s rather limited software resources.

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Yes and no. So far it seems Orange related = Orange Bloatware related, and you might have picked that up while roaming, or your issue is just a different one.

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Cool for the fast reply :slight_smile:

I wasn’t to France or near it for over 2 years^^

Does anyone has experience with any other launcher so far? I would like to try those first :stuck_out_tongue:

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Hi
I might not have a full picture but the orange related bug - only for French and Belgium networks- was kinda drastic, users couldn’t operate the phone.

Other bugs connected to quickstep looked more like what you described, the phone getting laggy, not responsive, recent apps not showing.

There’s a nice thread on alternative launchers

I tested Nova. Pear, now am on Lawnchair. I am generally happy yet, sometimes I have exactly the issues you mentioned

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The statement from Proximus also says: “Applications and features mandated by the EU are missing or not sufficiently developed”

To me, that sounds like the A15 update from Fairphone is not ready for use and still unstable and/or insecure….

I was hoping someone at Fairphone would be able to anwser my 2 questions:

  • What are the missing EU apps and the security concerns from Proximus about?
  • Is anyone at Fairphone working on this? (it’s nice to sell a phone with 100 years of updates if none are being released anyway)
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For me this sounds like pseudo legal bs. I am not aware that there is anything mandated by EU law that could interfere here. This is something I only heard from Apple to delegitimate the Digital Markets Act, which does not apply to Fairphone.

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  • The “EU apps” could be anything, from means to not send your data to Google, USA to specific measures for local civil security alerts (push alerts about catastrophes and such). There are a lot of details the user isn’t aware of, and I’m sure those are part of them, those little things which you usually won’t ever notice. Unless of course the initial message has been lost in translation and somebody seized the opportunity to blame the EU.

  • Updates? That has always been the (very) weak point of Fairphone. Hardware-wise the FP4 is adequate (by some points even rather good, IMHO), but they haven’t yet realized they don’t sell pizzas, on a smartphone the software layer is about as important as the hardware one is. As for communication, they are staunch supporters of the royal “never complain, never explain” strategy… :roll_eyes:

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