Did you consider reverting back to Android 12 ?
The last Factory Android12-version is available here ![]()
File name: FP4-SP2K-factory.zip
Version: FP4.SP2K.B.089
Did you consider reverting back to Android 12 ?
The last Factory Android12-version is available here ![]()
File name: FP4-SP2K-factory.zip
Version: FP4.SP2K.B.089
You mean your Whoop device worked fine with…
It is not the OS that has to work with something, it is the device that has to work with an OS. At least in general.
And of course you may need that device, but it is not Fairphones job to go the extra mile to support this, although it seems they tried.
From what I have read by now, you should consider replacing the device for one from a company that cares…
sure, i’ll do it. But i love the Fairphone’s mission, and hope this is only a temporany divorce.
Is the installation safe and easy for everyone?
Be aware that this operation (rollback) will wipe all your data, so you have to backup everything before.
Otherwise this is easy and accessible to everyone ![]()
Just be careful when relocking the bootloader, if you don’t want any risk better to keep it unlocked, as I did ![]()
I meant your Whoop device not your Fairphone.
Def never lock the bootloader after downgrading the SPL.
Really not the best management if they promote a phone as “sustainable” but neglect that they need to provide updates for that phone.
Turns out the Pixel 9a is both cheaper and noticeably faster than the Fairphone 4, comes with Android 16 and will get updated for the next 6 or so years.
Kinda disappointed with my Fairphone experience.
Welcome to the community forum.
Android 13 will continue to get security updates until early 2026, if prior Android versions are any indication. Latest update release by Fairphone was June 12.
Neglect is something different.
Point being? The Fairphone 4 is from 2021 and not sold anymore.
Because of an OS version number while still in active security support and because there are newer phones.
Much ado about nothing so far.
Is there any trouble with the phone we can perhaps help with?
Me too. I had hoped for something else, for a passionate company with a vision, but there is none. It’s just a fringe phone with some advantages (easy to replace parts) and some downsides (expensive for what it is, software lacking). ![]()
Fairphone’s main selling point, that they promised to support their phones longer than the competition, has vanished since Pixel/Samsung/etc. started promising longer support periods for their phones too.
I must be blunt here:
I cannot bear with this reality ignoring whining of you folks.
Fairphone is a small company with limited resources that tries to work against the industry.
But they now has forced competitors and SoC manufactures into longer support. - What a win!
And while you talk as if they would just ignore the FP4 users, it is in fact the SoC of the FP4 that is not supported by Qualcomm anymore and this causes a lot of trouble when it comes to OS version upgrades, but they still try.
I agree with you completely. The impact Fairphone (an d other similar companies) had on the support times of the big manufacturers is significant, no doubt! Additionally you could also mention the repairability of devices in this context, which is so much better than with devices of major manufacturers, even if some movement is noticeable already.
The other side of the medal yet is, that Fairphone was not able to keep all the promises they made, for what reasons ever. And even if the reasons are things like missing support by some suppliers (what most customers could have understood and accepted) , the communication is the big problem keeping the promises active while it must have been absolutely clear that they were not to keep.
This sounds, if Fairphone has given up to update the Fairphone 4 to Android 15.
Does I have missing something?
My last update was, that they are still working on android 15 for the fairphone 4.
Only the date is delayed and if the update works, they have a newer kernel and solved the qualcomm problem, that means full support for the promised time range.
Yes, two posts above yours, or in the topic linked to.
What makes this sound for you like they have given up on the FP4?
I understood that they just cannot communicate a date, yet, for the A15 upgrade of the FP4.
Same, they are still working on it…
Actually all companies work against each other, by any means they can afford, and differentiating themselves from the competition is a basic tool, called “Brand identity”.
My point is, this is not some special unfair handicap poor Fairphone is suffering under, it’s part of the general rules of the game. ![]()
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Please don’t overestimate the impact of Fairphone on the 21st century economy. ![]()
The writing about planned obsolescence was on the wall, after all the only ones happy with artificially short lifecycles were anxious stockholders, because it made them think they could prevent market saturation and sales would remain constantly high.
Once they realized the vast majority of customers will still buy the newest model no matter if their old phone is still working, they calmed down and elevated “longer lifecycles” to just another selling point. That’s all.
BTW, I personally do not say Fairphone won’t release an OS upgrade for the FP4. It might indeed happen, eventually. ![]()
What I personally complain about is Fairphone’s “brand experience” (since we’re into marketing talk…), which I think is well, “sub-optimal”.
If there is something they should look into, and which wouldn’t cost them a cent, it’s trying to treat their customers with a little more respect. On all levels, including but not limited to honest communication, they simply aren’t royal enough to adopt the “never apologize, never explain” motto, at their level it’s just rude. They can try that after they have bought up Apple. ![]()
And here you are completely wrong.
Fairphone is not trying to get its customers to buy a new phone every year, not even every other year. No, they even sell spare parts to let the phones last even longer.
This is anticapitalistic and this is a huge handicap!
And to burden yourself with a handicap like this, you need a vision, a mission.
???
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but everybody sells spare parts: Cars, white goods, even phones! Yes, they all sell (and have always sold) spare parts…
The one and only difference here is that Fairphone makes it possible to install those spare parts without technical knowledge or special tools. For any other phone brand, to get your screen or battery replaced you would need to go to some specialized shop. But it is possible (fortunately, because my family has a big consumption of iPhone screens).
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