Alternative Apps(tores): Living without Google (FP1)

Just tried and it works perfectly! Thank you for your suggestion :slight_smile:

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When you have UnifiedNIp, yalp says there is an update. If you click on the app to update it, it opens google play services…

There are several UnifiedNIp Versions
GAPPS based, AOSP based (without GAPPS) and Legacy.
Check F-Droid to see, which one you have installed. Because its a system App, you need root to remove it first and than install another version.

Just ignore the update. This is the best.

Yeah, I just wanted to point out the irony, when you install UnifiedNIp without GAPPS to avoid using gms and then Yalp offers gms as an update to UnifiedNIp.
But as you said, I’m not updating this way! F-droid is still my main app store.

I don’t think that would even work. UnifiedNLP is not a real GMS, and Yalp probably would not be able to update UnifiedNLP by the official GMS.

The point here is UnifiedNLP and microG Services Core need to impersonate GMS to be able to replace its services. They share the package ID, which Yalp Store (and F-Droid, and every other store out there) use as an identifier, and as a side effect, confuse it. But if you try to install the “update”, the package installer reports you can’t, because of different package signatures. So no problem, just a little visual issue here, :blush:.

Also remember that Google don’t want us to avoid their services in their walled-garden OS, so microG and UnifiedNLP are working on a limited framework which inevitably causes this kind of issues.

You can read more about this specific problem here:

and about Android’s security model some posts above the quoted before:

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I guessed it was due to such a reason, thanks for the good explanation! It’s nice to read tech stuff on this forum for people like me who don’t know much about development.

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Does anyone know a good calendar app (no widget!) Previously I had the “aCalendar” https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.withouthat.acalendar, the month view was exactly what I wanted. Does anyone know what comparable for Android without Googles Play Store?

aCalendar - month view:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/IWVjf20QufO8QraOB6ryUMgEziGGOm4qAJgclNOxK7djKl5hVAoY2iICs2RGOV3UyA=h900

Hace you searched F-Droid for “calendar”? There are some standalone calendars available.

@Enzi1984
You can also use Yalp (from F-Droid) to install Guhgel Apps, e.g. acalendar. However, some apps might require the Guhgel backbone, so the app might not work in FP Open.

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From F-Droid i installed ETAR and found it to be worth a try on the first view. Didn’t test it intensively yet, though.

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@BeMiGro
Etar is not available for the FP1U as it requires Android 4.4 (FP1U has 4.2). Thanks anyway! :slight_smile:

@Stefan
Yes, have tested about 7 …

@DietmarP
yeah, works great! Thanks!!

Oh, yeah, sorry. Etar wasn’t greyed out here (I’m testing the alpha #kitkat ).

I am using acalendar on my FP2 open OS without Google playstore. Probably I have installed it via apkpure. I don’t know wether acalendar runs on the FP1.

That may sound like a good idea but it’s really probably best to go to the distributor and insist that they have a .apk on their website (don’t most of them?), or provide a repo url you can add in to FDroid.

It’s surprising how many companies think it’s a good idea to have apps on GP, next to all the spyware and adware and other junkware of dubious quality.

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The problem is that Gxxgle exploits their competitive advantage through Android Studio (link to Wikipedia | the Android-IDE). In there they make it very easy to include their APIs, be it G Maps or G Pay, etc. Many developers don’t bother to fall back on FLOSS APIs (e.g. Open Street Map rather than G Maps).

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Exactly. Plus Android developer documentation is mixed with Gxxgle APIs and the Gxxgle Play ecosystem.
In addition, to install an APK file, the user needs to enable an option which they generally announce as a huge and terrorific security hole because you are dumb and don’t know who to trust.

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@Enzi1984
I just discovered Etar in F-Droid, based on the AOSP Calendar but with a much better month view than the Guhgel calendar. Maybe that’s an alternative to acalendar? Free software and no ads!

Problem is that it doesn’t work below Android KitKat… :upside_down:

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I thought KitKat is coming to the Fairphone 1 soon. Or do you (or one of your acquaintances [German: Bekannten]) use another “old” smartphone which is below KitKat?

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