šŸ‡¦šŸ‡ŗ 3G network closure - Australia

Hi All, I’m still waiting on Optus to provide more details, still working with the TIO too. Nothing else to report on at the moment.

Here is some lite reading while we wait.

ā€œTrust the foxes guarding the hen houseā€ – ACMA.

I hadn’t heard of ACCAN before, so that was a learnin’ experience for me.

I read (I think it was elsewhere, hopefully not repeating something from here) that the Telcos were using the ā€œstolen IMEI blocking listā€ as a method of ensuring legitimate (as opposed to stolen) phones were being blocked across all providers, and getting it off of that list was also a mind sore.

Hi all,

I need some support about FP compatibility in Australia.

I read in this and other threads about problems related to the IMEI blacklist that should prevent people from using FP3 after 3G network shutdown but it’s not clear to me what is the current situation for FP5 and FP6.

Can Australians, or people coming there for fun/work, use FP5 and FP6 or they’re blacklisted? If they can, are they also able to make emergency calls? Is there any difference, related to this problem, among operators (some might be more compatible than others…)?

Thanks.

Ciao,
Max

It’s complicated, but boiled down to a quick summary, Vodafone (AU) is the only carrier that currently allows an FP5 (I don’t know the FP6) onto its network (I currently use an FP5 on the network, so speaking from direct experience). The phones are blacklisted on the other networks, which I believe means that you can’t even place emergency calls with those carriers.

I do currently have a ā€œweirdā€* voicemail issue with Vodafone, and a support case opened, but I don’t think it’s specific to the FairPhone as my wife has the same issue with her Samsung (she ported after me, and we’re both recent ports). Vodafone ā€œCareā€ have been the opposite of stellar in trying to fix this issue; it’s my third ticket open with them, and now they’ve gone silent.

* - Basically, no one from a Telstra landline appears to be able to leave voicemail, and don’t even hear the greet message; after the call is diverted, they just get ā€œdead airā€. If the mobile is switched off (i.e. not connected to the network), the caller gets the dead air immediately.

This part is incorrect. The blacklisting doesn’t impact emergency camp-on. If it did, Vodafone would be obliged to blacklist FP5 as well.

Interesting, and happy to be wrong. I have been mildly impressed by Vodafone’s extended coverage since I last looked at them seriously (being a semi-rural dweller), but the tech support has knocked them back down a peg or several. I may not have been out of range yet to see the ā€œEmergency Calls Onlyā€ banner. I did think there was an issue with Telstra’s camping that prevented emergency calls, but I haven’t been able to back that up with citations for a while now, despite looking (the memory was that there was something slightly different about Telstra’s network that prevented legitimate emergency usage, but that’s a lot of supposition under the bridge, and my memory definitely isn’t what it used to be).

I’m using a FP6 on the Optus network and I have not experienced any issues specific to the FP. I accept that it might be blocked at some point in the future, but its currently showing as enabled for Telstra as well as Optus.

Hi All,

This is not good news. I finally spoke with someone from the TIO. Long story short they can’t help me get any more information I need from Optus and Optus has ignored my calls and emails.

However I found out the TIO is logging similar complaints and they have another team that compiles the information, which they pass onto the government. So they are sort of trying to flight for the consumers.

Also James Parker who started this partition, which was previously linked. Had updated the partition, with the below information and other content if your interested in how this is all playing out.

Department of Infrastructure (Communications) officially opened the Public Consultation for the ā€˜Triple Zero Legislative and Regulatory Review’ which was formally established by Minister Wells in March this year.

"Have your say - Triple Zero Legislative and Regulatory Review
https://www.infrastructure.gov.au/have-your-say/triple-zero-legislative-and-regulatory-review

Submissions close on 23 June 2026!"

James is also going to post a template (hopefully by this weekend) for people to use, if they’re unsure what to say.

@dt90125 - I hadn’t heard of the ACCAN either, short of calling them, I’m not sure they can help individuals too much, they mostly point at going to the TIO.

@mpolito1969 - you can look at either Telstra or Optus website which have a phone compatibly test, Vodafone does not have one. Otherwise look at this document which has user driven data. Fairphone Devices - Network Support Table | Is this Phone Blocked? - 4G/5G Device Blocking Checker

Thanks Sir_Crispy, I’m acting as a bridge between this forum and some Australians that would like to better understand what’s the situation for Fairphone there.

I’m passing your information too, many thanks.

Ciao,
Max

It’s annoying that despite the SMS received from Vodafone, the Fairphone still isn’t listed in Vodafone’s Approved Devices list, which Vodafone Support refer to as their canonical supported phone list. I’ve had to have the same ā€œspirited discussionā€ with VS that ā€œyes, I know the phone isn’t listed, but I also have this SMS saying it isā€.

It’s all fun and games on the bleeding edge, until you lose a limb.

I’m looking at replacing my existing FP4 with a FP6 on the Optus network. I’ve not had any problems with my FP4 on Amaysim (a reseller of Optus) but as it’s battery is dieing and I can’t run purchase a new battery in Australia I’m contemplating upgrading to the latest FP6.

However given the comments on the forum I’m hesitate to consider upgrading. Any word on whether the FP6 is supported now and into the future in Australia?

i believe that the fp6 is working fine (I’ve not heard of any issues). it’s the fp5 that’s had all the problems

not sure you’ll get an fp6 into the country tho. i ordered one through amazon and it got blocked at customs so in the end i had to cancel the order and get a refund. and i know someone else here had the same experience

you might be able to use a forward servicing instead, but you can probably just do that to get a new battery if you’re otherwise happy with the fp4, and you’re more likely to get a bare battery through customs than a whole new phone

good luck :slightly_smiling_face: let me know if you do order one and are successful

I think we can still get a FP6 delivered to Australia through Clove Tech in the UK: that’s how we’ve got our FP4s. (We now have 3 working successfully)

Our FP4s are still working fine: we just can’t get the official, ethically sourced batteries sent here. Really frustrating when you know the batteries are made in China and shipped to Europe for sale but we can’t get them here. The phones themselves are working fine including the occasional screen replacement.

Given the recent discussions about FPs getting blocked for use in Australia I’m really hesitant to risk purchasing another one. I am currently researching other ethical mobile phone options but would prefer to stick with FP.

With new batteries I can’t see how I can’t get another 3~4 years out of our phones which is really in keeping with the ethics behind FP.

FP if you’re listening: how can you support your Australian FP users more?

Pinging @Fairphone_CM .

Actually, this has been ticking away in my subconscious for a while now, and only just bubbled up. If the other networks allow emergency camp-on, then why was FP5 blocked on the grounds of being unable to use same emergency services? ā€œWe won’t allow you to use 000 as a customer, but as a competitor’s customer feel freeā€?

Touche. How many FP users do we think there are here in Australia?

ā€œThere are dozens of us! Dozens!ā€

Well, that inhabit this forum anyway. I suspect there would have had to have been a ā€œstatistically significant numberā€ to appear on Telstra and Optus’ radar to be blocked.

Because there’s different attitudes among the networks about how to determine whether a phone can successfully use the camp on.

For a phone to be sold in Australia, it has to have testing done to show it can do emergency camp on in a range of circumstances. That hasn’t been done for any fairphone, because they’re not sold in Australia. So what’s a network to do with a phone that has a theoretical capability to emergency call via volte and camp on to networks, but nobody has proven it via an accredited testing provider? Ban it and your customers come at you with the theory. Allow it and the government comes at you with the absence of testing.