New Fairphone 2 camera

Mobilflip.de reports that German provider mobilcom-debitel will not only continue to carry the Fairphone 2, but will also offer the new modules in selected shops (no specification yet). No word if modules will be available for everyone walking in or just FP2 mobilcom-debitel customers. :de: Article in German.

Found by @jayy

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SOO glad I just saw this post… I thought I would check and my camera settings were still set to the old resolution - I had been wondering why I hadn’t seen the improvement I had been expecting!!

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I wasn’t able to find a different setting except for the resolution. I have no different SD-card either. So the only thing that has changed is the camera.

And yes: it definitely was more than a second before I changed the camera. Chances are that this really is related to my SD card. It’s a relatively fast one, but has 128GB which has potential to slow things down.

Plus: turning on the flashlight from the android swipe-down menu also takes longer now. But it’s below 1sec, so I don’t care all too much.

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Where do one set the camera resolution? I am on android 6 fairphone2 os with august patches. Thank you.
P.s. dont worry, found the KB article myself speaking about needing to recalibrate the proximity sensor and the camera detail settings at: https://support.fairphone.com/hc/en-us/articles/115003783546

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Hi,
Have you tried saving the pictures on the internal memory instead, just to check if it’s faster?
My pictures are saved on the internal memory, but it’s still slow with open camera. It seems to be faster with stock camera. Have you tried?

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I just bought the new camera bundle but my new top unit code says FP-REC01 just like the old one. Is this correct or have Fairphone messed up?

Thanks

I just noticed that in the shop picture the new top module is labelled FP-REC02.
Ominous indeed, but I have the new bundle, and the parts are labelled FP-CAM01 and FP-REC01 just like the old ones (but they are the new ones, @Fuchur777 has some photos here where it is the same).

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I was wondering too about the labels being the same, but the modules I installed were definately new. So don’t worry about that.

By the way: what have you done with the old modules? Mine are still working, I don’t want to throw them away.

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I don’t use the SD for anything picture/camera-related anyway. I just store my mp3 collection on the SD. And the fact that now it’s much slower than before without changing anything except the camera tells me that it has something to do with the new camera module.

And yes, I remember the stock camera app to have been much faster - at least when I was still using the non-open FPOS, like a year ago. But I never measured the startup time with the old camera module, so I have no objective comparison. Now, with the new module it takes about 1-3sec so start (depends on if it’s still in the RAM or not).

I am running both of my fp2 with LineageOS. One with the new an one with the old camera set.
On both devices the native camera app and open camera need the same amount of time to start up.
It seems as if open camera starts a little slower but you need to see it side by side to notice it.

I will do a quick comparison of sd performance later this evening.

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For lack of an app I have testet sd performance using an USB cable and a debian linux computer, copying an audio book (188 files, 535 MB) back an forth.
Both FP2 wrote this audio book to sd in 2 min 35 sec.
Both FP2 copied it back to the computer in roughly 25 sec.

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I just thought of a way to test one aspect of cam app speed: burst mode + stopwatch

Open a stopwatch on your screen; just googling stopwatch works:

https://www.google.se/search?q=stopwatch

Set the camera app to burst mode (OpenCam for example can continue until you stop), start the stopwatch, then start the burst

What this tells you is the time that passes between shots. Note, this doesn’t help with timing startup time, since that would have to be synchronised with starting the stopwatch and human limbs are not very precise for that.

But this way you can test the effects of different resolutions, and different JPG quality settings (the latter being an indication of the effect of writing to flash).

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Did anyone of you noticed, that only in panorama mode the Google camera app isn’t focusing anymore?
Before switching to the new camera module it worked well for me.
Beside this, camera is focusing very well!
Here is a thread of @ModularKing: Camera Panorama focus?

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I have asked for that at a Debitel shop in Luebeck/northern Germany. The answer: No Fairphones distributed here in north Germany and no spare parts. Possibly you can get it in the south of Germany at Debitel shops.

Well, the link in the article on mobiflip linked by @urs_lesse to the mobilcom-debitel shop:
https://www.mobilcom-debitel.de/shop/smartphones/fairphone-2/p/P-3197885
shows an image of the old FP2 with regular case.
Status for the online-shop as well as for offline shops is: "Not available. If and when this phone will be available again is uncertain."
This makes me feel like the FP2 will not be available in mobilcom-debitel shops in Germany at all (right now).

I wonder if there is a test of the new camera module vs. the new iPhone camera? 12 MP camera modules… I think Fairphone could get a lot good Marketing, if they sell a camera module which can compete with the cameras of the other expensive manufacturers…

Fairphone is not aiming at that target, unfortunately. I e. other middle class and high class phones are able to export picture files in RAW format, the FP2 can’t.

Just before I start with replacing the modules
As I’m on Lineage now - will I have to flash Fairphone OS first to calibrate the sensor again and then flash back to Lineage?
Thanks

The sensor can create “raw” files, is it possible to rewrite the driver so that the camera can support the raw format?

I am only a humble user, I don’t know. But @Douwe may give us a reliable answer what we can hope for?.