Marketplace category

Maybe this thread could help?

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I believe a long long time ago we already discussed opening the beta section for everybody to read and I suggested not letting the posts appear in “latest” by default to avoid confusing basic users (Latest was the standard view back then).

Or maybe it was a discussion about the dev category? Or maybe it was a discussion from before your time, when Joe was Community Manager? Or maybe it never happened and I just dreamed it? It’s not like discourse’s search function would give us a chance to ever find out the truth! :wink:

Those mockups in there look nice, but the feature will probably not be ready soon.

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On the Discourse thread, there is also a link to an app which seems ready to use:
http://www.bidhub.org/

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@Douwe: Nice try, but currently the topics are visible in /latest, but the categories are hidden/don’t exist - and the links go nowhere: https://forum.fairphone.com/c/market

EDIT: Fixed :slight_smile:

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links should work now.

I am still trying to fix so new topics don’t show up in the ‘Latest’ part

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Could you move the topic below to the #market? I seem to lack permission to move posts there - only into the sub categories:

I updated the permissions. Can you check if you can move it now?

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:thumbsup:

Now we only have to change the colors to something else than the roadmap gold. :money_mouth:

3 posts were split to a new topic: New colors for the forum

Maybe we should also think about enforcing a rule that the #market is no place for discussing anything else. I think you should only reply to #market:wanted topics if you have a sincere offer and to #market:offered topics if you are interested in buying.

Otherwise some topics will constantly be arbitrarily bumped as off topic discussions unfold there, while other - more recent offers - could quickly vanish from the top of the category view.

Two options could be:

  • Replying to #market topics doesn’t bump them up. Neither in /latest nor in the category view. That way really hiding them from /latest may not be that important.
  • Replying is not possible, but anyone who has an open topic in the #market can be PM’d by anyone - even new users - until the topic is closed.

Unfortunately I haven’t really found solutions for either on meta.discourse.

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Agree! Another option to achieve this would be to auto-close the new topics really fast, so no new reply is possible… Maybe set auto-close to 30minutes or so…

Edit: minimum is 1 hour. So I chose that :slight_smile:

Also; I think that there should be no discussion in that category. People can discuss in PM’s if they want more information. It really is only interesting for the people involved and nobody else…

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I strongly disagree. See above.

And what happens with topics now if the item was sold/bought successfully?

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What about new users who want to offer/buy an discussed product, but have no possibility to send a PM yet?
I know it’s easy to get your status up and be able to send a PM, but people who only came to the forum to see if they can buy/sell a FP, are not always interested in reading how to “upgrade”. Or reading topics they are not interested in, just to be able to send a PM…

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Maybe a line like this should be added to the recommendations in the About the Unofficial Market category message:

• If you are offering, bear in mind all new forum members can only use the forum messaging system after a while*. You might want to allow them (and non-members) to contact you right away by providing alternative ways like your e-mail address (at your own risk).

*A link should be provided here that explains it (frankly I have not been able to re-find it now, it would be helpful if it was made easier to find in general)

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Or we could use topic templates that automatically add text to every #market post telling readers to contact the poster via PM and explaining how new users gain the right to send PMs.

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@TobiasF why do you think that questions and interest should be public? It only concerns the two people involved. Replies have the disadvantage that it bumps posts to the top that have no general interest. Also, if two people offer a FP1, and then a third person links the two to make it clear there is a price difference doesn’t sound to me like a nice or needed function.

There is the problem that brand new people on the forum can’t send PM’s. But maybe that is also a blessing: we have no way of vetting people or knowing who they are. So maybe it is a good thing that people need to be somewhat more part of the forum before they can bid… or is this to protective?

That is indeed an issue. Ideally I’d see people changing the topic title and add something like [SOLD] to it.

Is this even possible once the topic was closed?

I don’t think it’s an issue of whether the topic was closed. But users until a certain trust level can’t edit posts after a while at all - I guess including topic titles. Regulars on the other hand can always change topic titles, even if they didn’t create the topic.

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Just to get this clarified because it was not definitely clear so far: For the time being, it is not possible to keep the marketplace posts from showing up in the “latest” view, right?

I’m asking because I think this problem is actually the reason for closing all individual marketplace posts. And while I fully agree that they should not flood the “latest” view, I also see a perception problem with closing the posts: A closed marketplace post might convey the wrong impression to readers that the item was now sold.

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Questions should be public because they can be interesting to other people. It should be avoided that different users ask the same questions.

Interest should be public so a potential buyer can see if he can expect a success or if there are many other interested persons and he probably won’t get the item.

No. A third person should not link two sellers to each other. He should only answer if he is interested, but don’t want to pay the offered, but a lower price.

A third person can answer in “wanted” topics to link to “sell” offers if the seller did not do it.

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