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Living without Google 2.0 - A Google free FP2

I don’t know this particular one but I personally use Apk-downloader since ages, works great!

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Since this is a main part to live Google free, I don’t know why I missed this possibility until now. Was it mentioned in the forum before?

For sure it gives me a quite better feeling and confidence to start with my FP2 without a Google account… This made my days during setting up my FP2 :slight_smile:

Edit: Now after knowing what it is good for, I realized that the apk-downloader was already mentioned in earlier posts. But I was not aware about its function at this time…:confused:here, here and here

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I have disabled exactly the same services to get a non google phone and installed some alternative apps using f-droid (in most cases). Also I didn´t created a google account on the FP2.

Now I have one question: How do I view and edit contacts, when I have disabled the google-contacts app/service?
With the help of MyPhoneExplorer, I added my contacts. It is possible to view them as a list, f.e. by pressing the phone button and tap on contacts on the right side, but it is not possible to view or edit one single entry of my contacts. I also installed MyLocalAccount to add new local contacts, which is also not possible to view or edit contacts. An android message sais “You´ll have to activate the contacts app”.
So I´m in search for a foss app to view and edit contacts. And I don´t want to use some dialer-contacts-all in one apps.
Is DAVDroid a possible way? I think it is just to sync contacts?
But I just want to use my contacts locally on the phone and sync them with MyPhoneExplorer to my PC, not more.

Or is it save to use the google contacts app, if every other google service is disabled an no account is created?
I just want to be sure that google does not get my contacts :smile:

Does someone has a suggestion?

Thx in advance
Klaus

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For contacts and calendars on (self hosted) Davdroid works fine on my FP2. However I’m not using the tasks synchronization, so I can’t tell if this one works.

Thanks BeMiGro for your fast reply.
I gave DAVDroid a try but it didn´t let me view my contacts.

So I had a closer look on my deactivated apps and services. The contacts app I deactivated sais “Version 5.1-r4275.1_FP2_gms36_1.1.7” It looks to me, that this isn´t a google specific app and that would be in my opinion “safe to use”. By re-activating this app, this would solve my problems for sure.
Is this a fairphone or native android app or is this the bad google-let-me-sync-everything-to-my-cloud-app? :wink:

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If you disable the right app, the Google sync is disabled: http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/24331/add-contact-without-using-google-account#answer-51441

It should then say on the next contact creation that it cannot sync to Google and the contact is stored locally.

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Thank you tofra,

that helped me to solve this problem and my phones behaviour is now the same way as you described / linked to.

Merci :smile:

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I just found out that if you disable Google Services Framework you’ll no longer have the option to disagree with using Google Location Services and they’ll automatically be switched on every time you start GPS.

This sux.

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But they won’t be active, I guess:

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Someone would have to check the server connections…

That’s about the NLP without GAPPS isn’t it? In that case the warning would be misleading, but on the FP2 where you can’t disable Google Location Services the warning is indeed accurate. Disabling the Framework just gets rid of the warning, not of the Location Service I’m afraid.

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I’ve installed OsmAnd~ (from F-Droid) and followed the steps you mentioned to archive a Google Maps like Search. Unfortunately t’s not working very good.

At first it didn’t work at all. When hitting Online Nominatim - Address it just did nothing. Until I discovered I need to install an pre-loaded vector map (as stated here), even though I’m not actively using it in the app.

Secondly, almost every search I do delivers results which are at least 100 km away from the spot I searched (either current map center or current position). E.g. I’m searching for Supermarkt in Hamburg and the first result is in Gifhorn, which is 125 km away.

@georgmayer did you notice the same behaviour?

Hi Freubert,

you also have to enable a plugin (Menu->Plugins->OnlineMaps) - I guess you did that.

When I search something, I usually type in the name of either the region or the city, e.g. “Supermarkt Hamburg”.

Cheers from Vienna,
Georg

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Thanks @georgmayer, that’s an essential hint. Works much better. Sure I enabled the Online Maps.
It’s somehow strange to do it that way, but you already mentioned the somehow strange user interface :wink:
This also somehow reduces the Ausgangspunkt (point of origin?) setting to absurdity, as it’s only used to show the distance from that point to the results.

But nonetheles, better than feeding Google :laughing:

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Hello Fairphoners, hello paulakreuzer,

this is my first post in the forum after I’ve got my new FP2 at the end of Dezember. First backer :slightly_smiling:

One question: Disabling of ‘google play services’ app not possible:

At the very first and without sim card inside I disabled the most google apps like paulakreuzer recommended above. Only maps, contacs and google play services were still running. After testing and playing around with my new phone I insert my sim-card yerderday. (I have no google account!)

Now I would like to disable the ‘google play services’ app, but it is not possible anymore!? The disable-button in “app info” is greyed out! What can I do now? Something what I have to do before?

Thanks for your help.
Mirko

May be it helps…
How to disable Google Play Service

How to disable Googleplay Service (VDO)

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Google Play Services and Location Services can’t be disabled by default and I guess Apps that can disable it will need root privileges.

ok. Thanks @nohwann.

But strange, after reboot and searching in the settings again now I can disable the app in settings–>apps!?!

@paulakreuzer:
I don’t want to root my phone. Now the button ‘Disable’ is not greyed out anymore and it is possible to disable the default app Google Play services’ in settings–>apps.

I am confused. I understood that Google Services can’t be disabled (is still running under apps->running). Or is Google play services the same like Google services?

Shall I disable google play services now or will I get some problems with the system?
It seems that Google play services is responsible for a lot backround data (settings->data usage). And I don’t like that there is something going on without control.

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Its really strange. Suddenly I can disable Google Play Services too. So I did, I’ll post back if I run into any troubles.

PS: So far I didn’t run into any problems with GPlay Services disabled. This leaves Location Services to be the only one that can’t be deactivated without root. However on FP osos you can replace it with µg Unified Nlp.

Did you made anything which provoked this?
What else google services did you disable already without problems?

I have no idea what changed except the date. :wink:
If anybody finds out please edit the first post ( :pencil2: wiki).

I disabled all other GAPPS&Services.