Oh you’re right! Though as a shutter I didn’t need so much pressure.
Now I get the “Programmable Button has stopped” popup, probably because I disabled camera but didn’t yet install open camera after the latest reset. 
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Thanks again for this great list - Etar, OpenCamera, F-Droid and Vanilla Music now replaced another sector of the Google galaxy on my FP - wonderful!
One more hint: if you are using LastFm, then <a href=https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdfilter=scrobble&fdid=com.adam.aslfms>this works perfect for scrobbeling.
Cheers,
Georg
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Sorry if i’m a complete noob but i haven’t used smartphones much before getting this fairphone 2. How do i turn these off?
Go to Settings > Apps > All > tap on the App > tap “disable”.
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Thanks, i had a different language but i figured it out now.
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Hey,
I will get my FP2 in the next days and I am quite curious/sceptic about some goolge related stuff during the fist setting up / booting the FP2. Here are some of my questions conernces, which maybe somebody can answer, althoug it is most likely not a FP2 only topic but more a Android 5.1 thing.
Maybe wen can make of this a short “Guide how to set up the FP2 with stock Android 5.1 for the first time”, as this topic is quite wide spread over the forum…
My concerns are mostly how I can minimize google automatisms with the FP2 stock OS:
- Is having a google account a MUST for booting the phone normally for the first time?
- How will the playstore/google account looks like, if I use the same account for two phones (FP1 & FP2) in parallel?
- Are the “installed” apps completely synced between both (also payed apps)?
- Or is Android asking me, which of the installed apps from the FP1 I want also install to the FP2?
- What happens then, if I install any new app - will it appear also automatically at the second phone (which I would hate)?
- Which steps I should do, if I do not accidently upload my contacts to google, which I will try import locally (e.g. via MyPhoneExplorer and MyLocalAccount)
- What to do to avoid that google upload anything to the server at all (pics, messages…)? Are there some “hidden sync options”, which differ much from FP1/Android 4.2?
- How to prevent Android5.1 of eating the mobile data amount?
I am sure I will have some more questions, but that’s all for the moment.
If you have some more recommendation feel free to post - also within the frame for a future guide, if usefull hints come in…
Cheers, Robert
No.
This guide is meant to disable Gmail auto synch, but a lot of it can be used to prevent other apps to synch with google too.
I can’t answer 2+3 because I never used Google.
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Could you be please more detailed? I can just click “no” and that’s all?
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When you first start the FP2 you’ll be taken through some Setup steps one of them is entering your Google ID. You can skip all of them by clicking “next” without entering anything. You’ll get a popup saying something like “do you really not want google, blah blah…”. Just say yes.
You can always add a Google Account later if you change your mind. (Settings > Accounts)
PS: a little later you’ll also have the option to decline Google the right to gather your crash reports and other data to “improve Android”. You’ll have to untick them before you click next if you don’t want Google to spy on you (that much). This is independent from having a Google Account.
Another Google Service you can decline is the Location Service. Unfortunately you’ll get a prompt every time you switch on Location if you don’t accept. (But it’s still worth it. GPS on the FP2 is good enough and Google will otherwize always know where you are.)
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Oh, good to know. Thought that I read it is not possible.
Means I can use the phone without an account, thus it cannot upload anything by accident and start using it with F-droid etc?!..until an rooted version is there.
It is a kind of bad GAPP-free version, but with GAPS installed?!
Thanks!
I added a PS to my last post.
You can disable all Google Apps and replace them with Apps from F-Droid. I mentioned some examples here. You can’t disable Google Services though.
I always start all phones the first time without sim-card. It cannot connect to wlan, because no password is given. So when the phone was through the first-start-procedure, I could disable everything I won’t use. (After that I normally root my phone). Then installed fdroid (allow unknown sources) with wlan and so on. The last thing for me is always insert sim-card.
Spielmops
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This is the way I should have done it - I sadly didn’t:
(If you have your contacts in a file, you can copy it to your microSD card if you’d like)
- Install MyLocalAccount (only available on the Play Store as far as I know, maybe there’s an alternative?)
- insert sim/micro SD with your contacts depending on your choice. I inserted a microSD, then in the contacts app I selected import from sd and was prompted to choose whether to import to Google or MyLocalAccount.
DON’T import before you have a local address book. Android will upload your contacts without any further prompt or warning!
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Quick question - when I choose not to set up an account with Google, can I still use GCM (Push Services) for Signal, Threema and the like?
Cheers!
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Most Apps like that have a polling function. (I know Threema and Telegram have it.)
With polling you can set a time interval (like five minutes) in which the App will check for notifications. So it’s not quite as fast as push, unless of course the app is running, in which case notifications will come in real time too.
Btw, as this topic turns out to be just about living without google, I’ll move it.
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Doesn’t it help to just not connect an Google Account? Then there is nothing more to sync.
Thank you very much! I guess I read most of it. But one question remains - do I need to configure an account, or can a GCM token be obtained without an account?
I’d be happy to install a minimum GMS package (or use the FP2 unrooted) without a Google account, but using the push infrastructure (Signal and Threema being only two examples, there’s more… E.g. I’m looking into switching my WeMo infrastructure to an open source one which relies on GCM as well…)
I’m not having the phone yet, so it’s just what I think. First of all this
is the best way to avoid any synchronizing in the first place. So the phone cannot send any data (can collect them though).
As fas as I read (I think @paulakreuzer was the one testing it, but I cannot find it at the moment) you can disable everything google related and even uninstall some of the apps. The services you can only deactivate. So you can choose step by step, what you want and what not (that’s how I’m going to do it).
But paranoia altert: I woulnd’t trust that even with that way nothing is collected any more. I guess most of the personal stuff is safe by that approach but I’m not sure about meta data and statistiks (e.g. of usage).
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I updated the top post and made it a 
Wiki.
Feel free to contribute.
@Sonne: Most GAPPS can’t be uninstalled and none can be uninstalled without root. And most services can not be deactivated.
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