This thread serves as a consolidation of “leaving the Fairphone movement” posts/threads. Such discussion is welcome, but please don’t open new threads about such. We will merge such threads into this one during the FP3 era. Old thread (from FP2 era) [image] Leaving a movement Part…

Well, it is easier for the manufacturer to reuse working components of an old device than for a user. Of course, the ideal thing is retrofitability, which you say is not possible - with the current technology, maybe in the future… Swapping is making things easier. Not everyone has the means to rese…

You can not go to a shop and buy a Shiftphone or Fairphone, because they are starting and meaning to change the industry. This is hardly done by doing it like all the others do it. Modularity is a means for sustainability by repairability. Achieving reliability with modularity is the hard thing to …

Many thanks to make and BertG. The FP2 was undoubted flawed in many points, and if you followed the forum and bug tracker (example: https://bugtracker.fairphone.com/project/fairphone-android-7/issue/36 ) it should become clear that this was not just a “personally experience” as ElKrasso describes it…

[image] maki: Good luck selling your Fairphone, how much can you expect getting for it? I sold my working FP2 with accessories for 170 EUR. I see them going for ~150-200 EUR. If it were broken, I would have sold (for much less, perhaps in parts) and/or recycled it. If you buy a FP3, you can…

[image] anon18561511: it should become clear that this was not just a “personally experience” as ElKrasso describes it This is a software regression in the official firmware. These can be fixed. The FP2 has a number of hardware issues which occur relatively common enough to consider them har…

Agree, but not having a working WIFI for almost 1 year doesn’t seem to me that they are eager to fix software regressions in a way one would expect. And don’t get me wrong. The philosophy and sustainability behind Fairphone is great. And I can see and do appreciate all the great work. But in the en…

I had the same issues as you (very poor battery live, performance of the phone not good anymore, wifi bugs, frequent crashes of apps, very bad camera quality) - timho hey really should have postponed or even cancelled the update to android 7. Instead of buying a new fairphone I think I’ll buy a used…

I moved your post here because it doesn’t contribute to the question at hand in the Fairphone 3 topic, whereas this topic here seems much more fitting.

I’ve worked doing humanitarian work in conflict zones in Africa in places where the minerals (coltan+++) where part -if not just the source- of the problem and I’ve witnessed the suffering it provoked. I am very much sensitized about the ecological problem that electronics and its overconsumptions r…

I’m sorry to read about your experiences with FP and I totally understand your point. It’s very important that you share your story here, because it is a part of FP obviously. I think every feedback is important - for a person OR a company - to make improvements. And I hope that FP will improve, bec…

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