Install /e/ on a Fairphone FP4 - “FP4” (beta)

Experience is good
Found no major bugs yet

I noticed that in the image for the FP4 neither a secure ntp server is set nor a secure captive portal.

both outputs return 'null

adb shell 'settings get global captive_portal_https_url'
adb shell settings get global ntp_server

so i set as ntp server and kuketz as captive portal.

adb shell settings put global ntp_server
adb shell 'settings put global captive_portal_http_url ""'
adb shell 'settings put global captive_portal_https_url ""'
adb shell 'settings put global captive_portal_fallback_url ""'
adb shell 'settings put global captive_portal_other_fallback_urls ""'

I am surprised that nothing is set by default.


Does anyone know if completely removing microg is possible? While I like the degoogle idea in theory it just adds too many problems and forces improvised solutions to make the phone work like my previous one (and even then not everything works). On my previous phone I had LOS (which doesn’t have microg or gapps preinstalled) and used nano gapps with xprivacylua blocking data access. If I’m being honest I’d prefer to go back to that.

Examples of things not working:

  • Drive (and any app relying on Drive for backups)
  • Youtube (neither Vanced nor the basic one work, the app crashes after a few seconds of watching)
  • Same with Netflix, Prime and D+

I cannot find the microG core system as app. so I think it would not be possible. it is implemented in the system

OK, but you have to wait until it is available for FP4…

very hardcore stuff.
with such apps I can well imagine that everything is not doing right

Yeah, I know that. I guess I’ll use my old phone until then.

very hardcore stuff.
with such apps I can well imagine that everything is not doing right

Problem being that I have no idea what could be wrong. Everything else is working fine and I actually thought everything was working until I wanted to watch a YT video this morning.

to watch YT Videos you could try the F-Droid Version

I assume that those apps are dependet on GSF and even if microG is somehow pretending this, there is never a guarantee it works and it can break every time.

Edit for further reference FP4: Google-free Android - #77 by AnotherElk
I woudl also suggest when you find issues with specific apps, to report to Murena, so in case there are bugs in the system causing this, those can be fixed

Hehe, after unlock your bootloader, flashing your Rom, locking the bootloader again, finding out about the the slot a/b thing to escape the boot loop, it IS funny (and probably unexpected by most) to first see a launcher meant for technically most unskilled user … Even people buying the Murena phone do not necessarily switch from iPhone. However, taste is taste, and after the first surprise I left it as is :slight_smile: (There are a lot of issues more urgent at Hand)


Yeah, that’s what I think, too.


Thank you! Was wondering what was going on… lol

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Oh, this was a mere personal remark. My aim is to get rid of as much of the tracking stuff of “survilliance capitalism” as possible. After setting up my own web calendar server, file cloud, adresse book etc., using DuckDuckGo Browser and Blockade app - and after beginning to read privacy policies of commonly used apps and web sites, I just start to realize that there is much more tracking and profiling going on than I ever thought. And with my freemail provider beeing one of the worst, even analyzing mail content, I obviously will have to find a better mail solution asap. But I don’t feel like setting up and maintain my own mail server. I wonder if the service of /e/ foundation will do?


good point!
Thanks for that!

If not have a look at or


but be careful. you can also become paranoid very quickly and stress yourself to the point of no return…
I have meanwhile really hit the brakes. if you deal with it properly and do not pay attention it goes deeper and deeper and you have more and more concerns. that can have a really negative effect on your psyche.

i’m more pragmatic about it now. as much as necessary as little as possible. i don’t drive myself crazy anymore.


if you’re looking for some decent email options, Tutanota and ProtonMail are worth checking out, too. I’ve been using the former for a few years now and I’m quite happy with it.

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Is it possible to extract the original camera app as executable or installable apk file from original rom?

To use in /e/ and to have the wide range

You can try it, I uploaded it here.
I see two problems:

  • It depends on Google Photos, IIRC
  • Maybe needs to be a system app (could be solved with Magisk)

Edit: Here’s the relevant part in the manifest:

        <package android:name=""/>
        <package android:name=""/>

Not sure if that means that’s a hard dependency :thinking:

Edit 2: The documentation on <queries> doesn’t make this any clearer for me, maybe someone with Android packaging experience can answer that :slightly_smiling_face:

thanks @hirnsushi but as you already mentioned, it is not working. starts but chrashes then after a few microseconds

Using the /e/ camera app, I was able to switch cameras to wide angle using the camera icon with the “+” sign near the zoom slider. Since it kind of overlaps with the slider, it is easy to miss when tapping on it (and change zoom instead)

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you’re right, but the quality is poor.
normally i use the wichaya gcam port, but for wide angle would it be nice to have it…

anyhow, it is not that important for me. i am not the photographer :wink:

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