“You don’t use a plugged headphone in a car”
Of course you do:
“But anyway, Bluetooth is more versatile, than a jack and more helpful”
To you. Not to all those who’d be happy to do without and in fact do, and are happy to be let free to keep using the audio equipment they already have without being forced into purchasing perfectly avoidable and undesired adapters or new headphones/earphones/speakers.
Which means that Faiphone’s purported core values are a thorough fraud.
Given you never had broken flash we already established you never use your devices and/or write data to them 
@Alessandro, I don’t agree with the weight of your dislike of lack 3.5 mm, but one thing you got very right: that BT car kits are pointless. You’re not even allowed to grab the phone while driving. How can you be not OK with it being wired? There’s no way the cable is going to be in your way. I just don’t get it…
Not really! You missed the initial motivation which is to be fair to the labourers in the supply chain, that’s why I invest, not for the green chameleon scales and other flaky ideas 
Wired via a headphone jack doesn’t give you the possibility to use the car stereo to control your phone, so you have to handle it to make calls. But that’s not allowed. If you use the USB, there’s no jack necessary.
And the cable might interfere with the stick shift or the handbrake, a Bluetooth connection won’t .
But the discussion is treading on the spot, there is no headphone jack in the FP4, we can regret that, we can behave like Little Rumpelstiltskin, it makes no difference, it’s a fact.
Two appreciated improvements are
How much is your current phone? As I was pointed somewhere up in this forum, try this math: divide your phone’s cost by the number of effective usage you can get out of it. For instance, a cheap phone, say 120 €, that lasts 2 years, would mean 5 €/month, for a device that can’t have its parts easily replaced, and neither is sustainable (environmentally and socially). If you can use that unfair device for a longer period of time, software will be outdated and pose a risk. I believe all these reasons are more than enough to choose FP 4.
Engineering a watertight headphone jack in the concept of fairphone is really hard and bigger then you want at least. That was the dilemma Fairphone had.
Bluetooth is something what is delivered on the chip by Qualcomm so not Fairphone is pushing BT but Qualcomm does.
This is getting a bit patetic. We still talk about BT and the Jack? Yes, we know what are the facts, now get over it. Some of you prefer BT and some of you the Jack. FP4 will not change. If you like it and NEED it, then buy it. If not, don’t.
Now let’s get some user reviews to see how it works in the wild life…
The whole discussion is just about the missing audio jack port (and I personally really don’t care about that).
what I’d like to know: Is there a notification led? 
Currently there are no indications for this unfortunately. With the screen not being an OLED one (which might make sense due to the burn-in issues they may have) I would have liked to see this simple way to indicate that there are notifications without having to turn on the display.
Looking at my good old FP2 and its shortcomings I’d be interested in these points:
@anon9989719
yep, that was my own interpretation btw 
but there’s no official statement from fairphone or any review that would show the notification led in action…
@Martin_Anderseck
you can see three darker areas besides the notch:
)Pretty sure it’s not a grill, the screen looks solid, so what else could those things be ??
Will have to check some videos
Isn’t that the speaker you hold near your ear whilst you’re phoning? There’s also a large horizontal line on the top, it has a different color than the rest of the area. Maybe that’s the speaker or a large LED.
I suppose that’s the speaker…
For reference: My car was built in the year 2008 and features a Bluetooth handsfree unit which I use with my FP2 flawlessly every single day. If I took a USB cable to plug in and out twice a day, the microUSB port of the FP2 would not last very long. No idea whether the USB-C ports would last longer or not…
Could be, then I suppose not the entire area is used while calling. Else your phone call gets distributed beyond your ear.
Magnetic cable would’ve avoided that. Although they tend to stick less well than wired, which in some situations is desired and in some not.
Right, it is a different use case anyway, because many audio sources stlll need to be connected with a traditional cable. But a friend of mine already uses his TV with an external Bluetooth transceiver, sitting approximately five meters away and listening over Bluetooth headphones. However, although I am not a big fan of wireless (audio) connections, they absolutely make sense in a car…
It makes sense for your friend as well, for example listening to radio or TV while cooking, cleaning house etc you can easily do with a BT headset. In such a case you’re not stationary. In a car, you sit stationary. That’s when I find BT less useful. More so because the sound would be at the car speakers via aux-in or USB.
