Fairphone novelty (novelties?) to come on 30 September 2021

As I said, it’s very subjective. I think both opinions are found millions of times underneath the users.
Anyway - saw the cases for about 30€ in gray and green - I assume, they will look like the colors on the phone it self. But as they always looked a little more bright, I could imagine them be a little brighter.

@Antoine the pinkie :stuck_out_tongue: The Pro side would be, you can use it, while in hand and while laying on the table. That was the con on finger sensors on the back. And those under the screen seem to have problems reading the finger from time to time. Anyway you are right, having it on the height of the buttons, would feel more intuitive and would be good to reach for the forefinger.

I’m thinking the power button.

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I was talking about the need for 5G. Tweakers.net just did some tests. They’re behind a paywal, but the gist of it is that 5G in The Netherlands is useless compared to 4G. We already got very good 4G as it is. You pay extra for 5G. The download speed is usually lower than 4G, and the upload speed usually higher. Latency is approx the same. On top of that, 3.5 GHz bands are nowhere to be seen for the next years (due to lawsuit about it). Ie. not worth upgrading, 4G is going to work perfectly fine. Most of Fairphone’s current customer base in without a doubt in Germany, and I don’t know how/if the above applies there.

3G though, is going to be downgraded to 2G soon (if not already) and 2G is also going to be phased out. Both can be easily MITMed, FWIW.

Preferably server-side instead of client-side :rofl:

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Nowadays, fingerprint readers are often on the power button or in the screen. Whether that is the case with a FP4 I don’t know. What you see on the bottom is probably the speaker. There’s also some smartphones which don’t have a fingerprint reader anymore; they use faceID. Which is annoying if you physically disable your camera (ie. back to PIN/password only).

With a camera island of 3 I suppose the camera is going to be massively improved.

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Still going for fingerprint sensor for the third ‘round’

On the side: I was thinking a recessed power button but a speaker it could be.

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Could SOC 690 and 6 Gb of RAM be qualified as good quality performance?

Here are some benchmarks and reviews:

https://www.notebookcheck.net/SD-690-5G-vs-SD-660-vs-SD-665_12957_9944_11487.247596.0.html

It is a midrange SoC…

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The fingerprint is definitely on the side, I’ve put my paint skills to work to illustrate it :slight_smile:
edit: thinking about it more the bottom right thing could be the opening tab or speaker, I’m not 100%!

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Yes. I would say it is in the upper midrange. It was released on June, 16th 2020. Qualcomm will provide updates for the SoC for some years, I guess. List of Qualcomm Snapdragon systems on chips - Wikipedia

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Oh my… you are right, I see it now. Pretty clearly, too. I hope not cause I like it when camera and fingerprint reader are not near each other. I don’t want to touch my camera, ever.

FP3 has a speaker on the very same spot, it even looks identical as well.

FP4 seems more like a ‘tok’ release than a ‘tik’ release.

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But where does the SoC leak come from? Aren’t these just rumours?

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Still can’t see the third ‘hole’ being a finger print sensor.
Checked through Amazon for smartphones with an 48mp cam and there where two of about 100 devices. So it’s very uncommon.
And there was just one device with the sensor being close to the cams.
So uncommon but not impossible.
BUT the fingerprint sensors are always centered on the horizontal line.
So for me it’s very unlikely that that will be a fingerprint sensor.

@HolosericaCaligo as far as I know - yes that’s still a rumor

The info is from

and of course more info (on the soc)

and more info on the soc

Yeah but no sources known there.
They seem to know the full device, as they tell the solution, from cam solution even battery size and so on. All this is not known jet.
Either they have insiders or they just filled the clip with assumptions.
I tend for the second.

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True, but luckily there are still some on the market. As having the LED was one of the “unique selling points” so far for Fairphone, I just hope it stays this way.

Of course, it is all about personal preference. Some people don’t need it (and they don’t have to use it), some people like it.

IF it will be an OLED screen :wink:

And if always-on is properly implemented. I remember a OnePlus-phone few years ago, where they ditched the LED and did not have a proper alway-one-display (which, in fact, could be an alternative for the LED for some people).

Great, thanks for finding this! Two “holes” are necessary for ambient light and proximity. So I guess the third one is for the notification LED (same like it is in the FP3 with three holes).

The speaker grill could be the greenish bar on top. Just guessing, of course, but this would make more sense. Having the speaker so much out from center would be odd.

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Sure, but Fairphone as a company itself is interested in leaking the details step by step to get longer and higher attention. I guess most details in the video are true. But it would be fun, if other videos with different, authentic appearing details will be published.

Ok !

Let’s see if they managed to make it upgradable :slight_smile:

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Considering that the body might be thinner than the one of its predecessor: I do not think so…

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fp3 > 9.98mm
fp4 > 7.8

Yes 2.18 mm is quite a step

Just a thought, looking at the video, I didn’t see a jack socket for headphones ??