Given FP’s experience with the firmware development (had to stop for the FP1, seems to be quite some workload for the FP2) I really hope FP 3 will be an ‘Android one’ device. That would take the burden from FP, allowing them to specialise in the hardware development (with all the ethical problems a…

[image] Rob_van_der_Does: knowing that FP failed utterly in the upgrade process for both the FP1 & 2 How did they fail for the FP2? It’s still receiving monthly security updates. [image] Rob_van_der_Does: IMHO Android One would be a good option for FP to be relieved from the burden of co…

Of course. The money they’re wasting on software development is why the camera on my phone doesn’t work. They should take their developers off and hire better hardware engineers. I love the Fairphone concept enough to put up with the terrible battery life and malfunctioning back camera, but not ever…

Please don’t mix up ‘(security)updates’ with ‘(firmware)upgrades’. The FP1 did receive some secutiry updates, the FP2 receives them quite often. So indeed: in that area FP is doing a decent job. But they utterly failed in the firmware upgrades: the FP1 didn’t receive any at all, the FP2 just one. …

I don’t mix up updates with upgrades, but you can’t have failed with upgrades as long as you can provide updates. If security updates stop being delivered for your current OS and you don’t have an upgrade yet, then you might have failed.

[image] Rob_van_der_Does: But they utterly failed in the firmware upgrades: the FP1 didn’t receive any at all, the FP2 just one. The result is that atm the FP2 is still being sold with A6, while A8 is the current version. The Fairphone 2 is still being sold with an official Android version we…

[image] Rob_van_der_Does: But they utterly failed in the firmware upgrades Please correct me, if I’m wrong. Ain’t it so, that almighty Google decided to make a list of conditions a phone has to comply to to be considered worthy i.e. supported for “Nougat” (Android 7). That’s a general decisio…

[image] BertG: for security reasons Memories… efct16 (Please forgive my off-topic-ness. :wink: ) [image] European Fairphoners Community Trip to Amsterdam (#EFCT16) (22-28/8/16) Everyone of the apartment Fairphoners have arrived happily and, after taking some hurdles (they hadn’t told us t…

For me (so that’s really personal) security updates are far more important then firmware upgrades. So I’m not that worried about FP2 running a 2 year old Android version. But many are, and it would certainly be a selling point for the FP2 if it would be running A7 or even A8 at the moment. Whateve…

I have not owned the FP2 for that long. I came from an iPhone and bought a 500+ euro phone. I was disappointed that that phone did not have the latest Android version. The FP is supposed to last quite some time. During that time Google engineers are making Android better (and not just for the Googl…

Ok, we are missing here the WHY. Why has not upgraded Fairphone their FP2s to Android 7 or 8? Because Google and Qualcomm, simply put. The SoC/platform of FP2s is MSM8974, Qualcomm’s Snapdragon line. Google imposed some requirements while developing Android 7 that excluded this platform at the momen…

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